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Coffeeology (COFFEE) with Peter Giuliano

Coffeeology (COFFEE) with Peter Giuliano

Update: 2024-09-037
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This podcast episode dives deep into the world of coffee, exploring its history, science, and cultural impact. Host Ali Ward interviews Peter Giuliano, a coffee expert, to uncover the secrets behind the beloved beverage. They discuss the origins of coffee in Ethiopia and Yemen, tracing its journey to becoming the global phenomenon it is today. The episode delves into the science of coffee flavor, explaining the Maillard reaction and the key flavor components that coffee lovers seek. Peter also addresses the ethical concerns surrounding coffee production, highlighting the importance of sustainability and fair trade practices. The episode explores the different types of coffee, including Arabica and Robusta, and the various brewing methods, from traditional drip coffee to specialty espresso. Peter also tackles common questions about coffee's impact on health, including its effects on bowel movements and cholesterol levels. The episode concludes with a discussion on the sensory experience of coffee, emphasizing the importance of extrinsic factors like environment and company in shaping our perception of flavor.

Outlines

00:00:00
Coffee: From Bean to Cup

This episode explores the fascinating world of coffee, from its origins to its impact on our lives. We'll delve into the science behind coffee flavor, the ethical considerations of coffee production, and the cultural significance of this beloved beverage.

00:02:23
Meet the Coffeeologist: Peter Giuliano

We meet Peter Giuliano, a coffee expert, who shares his passion for coffee science and its application to a product enjoyed by millions.

00:04:07
Coffee Consumption: Super Specialty vs. Specialty Adopters

Peter explains the difference between "super specialty" coffee consumers, who prioritize technical aspects, and "specialty adopters," who prioritize enjoyment and experience.

00:11:28
The Science of Coffee Flavor

Peter delves into the science behind coffee flavor, explaining the Maillard reaction and the key flavor components that coffee lovers seek.

00:15:27
The Origins of Coffee: Ethiopia and Yemen

Peter traces the origins of coffee to Ethiopia and its journey to Yemen, where it was roasted and brewed, becoming the coffee we know today.

00:19:36
Coffee Waves: From Truck Stops to Specialty Shops

Peter outlines the evolution of coffee trends, from the first wave of simple truck stop coffee to the third wave of specialty coffee shops emphasizing quality and origin.

00:24:59
The Dutch East India Company and the Spread of Coffee

Peter recounts the role of the Dutch East India Company in the spread of coffee, explaining how they stole coffee seeds from Yemen and planted them in Indonesia.

00:27:38
Coffee Leaf Rust and the Rise of Latin American Coffee

Peter describes the impact of coffee leaf rust, a fungal disease that wiped out coffee plantations in Sri Lanka and Java, and how Latin American coffee production rose in its wake.

00:30:20
Understanding Coffee Flavor Profiles

Peter provides a guide to understanding coffee flavor profiles, emphasizing the importance of geography and processing methods.

00:36:16
The Science of Coffee Bitterness

Peter addresses the debate surrounding coffee bitterness, explaining that it's a matter of personal preference and not a scientific "correct" answer.

Keywords

Coffeeology


A term used to describe the study and knowledge of coffee, encompassing its origins, cultivation, roasting, brewing, and flavor profiles.

Maillard Reaction


A chemical process involving sugars, proteins, and heat that creates complex flavors and aromas in coffee during roasting.

Super Specialty Coffee


Coffee that is highly prized for its quality, often characterized by specific origins, processing methods, and flavor profiles.

Specialty Adopters


Coffee consumers who prioritize enjoyment and experience, embracing a wider range of coffee styles and brewing methods.

Arabica Coffee


The most widely cultivated species of coffee, known for its delicate flavor, floral and fruity notes, and lower caffeine content.

Robusta Coffee


A coffee species with a higher caffeine content and a more bitter, strong, and nutty flavor profile.

Shade-Grown Coffee


Coffee grown under the shade of trees, which provides environmental benefits such as biodiversity and habitat for native species.

Kopi Luwak


A coffee produced from beans that have been eaten and excreted by civets, a practice that is often controversial due to ethical concerns about animal exploitation.

Q&A

  • What are the key flavor components that coffee lovers look for?

    Coffee lovers typically seek sweetness, bitterness, acidity (a pleasant sourness), and aromatics like vanilla, butter, or chocolate.

  • What are the main species of coffee and how do they differ in flavor?

    The two most popular species are Arabica, known for its delicate flavor and floral/fruity notes, and Robusta, which has a higher caffeine content and a more bitter, strong, and nutty flavor.

  • What are the environmental benefits of shade-grown coffee?

    Shade-grown coffee plantations provide habitat for native species, contribute to biodiversity, and support a healthier ecosystem compared to full-sun coffee cultivation.

  • What is kopi luwak and why is it controversial?

    Kopi luwak is a coffee produced from beans that have been eaten and excreted by civets. It's controversial due to ethical concerns about animal exploitation, as civets are often kept in cages and forced to consume coffee cherries.

  • How does the roasting process affect coffee bitterness?

    Roasting can create bitterness in coffee as sugars and other compounds break down and form bitter compounds. Darker roasts generally have a higher bitterness level than lighter roasts.

  • What are some ways to reduce bitterness in coffee?

    Adding milk, sugar, or salt can help to modulate bitterness. Some coffee roasters also specialize in sourcing and roasting coffees that are naturally low in bitterness.

  • What are the extrinsic attributes of coffee and how do they influence flavor perception?

    Extrinsic attributes include factors like the environment, company, and cup shape. These factors can influence our perception of coffee flavor and contribute to the overall coffee experience.

  • How does the environment in which we consume coffee affect our perception of its flavor?

    The environment, including visual cues and associations, plays a significant role in shaping our perception of flavor. For example, coffee enjoyed outdoors may taste different than coffee consumed indoors due to the influence of the surrounding environment.

  • What are the challenges of working in a field you love, like coffee?

    The challenge lies in the potential for the enjoyment of the product to become intertwined with the demands of the job, leading to a loss of simple enjoyment. This can be particularly true for those who work in fields where they are constantly analyzing and evaluating the product.

Show Notes

When did coffee get into our mouths? Who’s right when it comes to the best coffee? What’s the most ethical way to enjoy it? What about the cats that eat the beans? How will climate change affect your morning coffee? Peter Giuliano is the executive director of the Coffee Science Foundation explains folk stories behind coffee, what makes beans taste the way they do, why cold brew and nitro feel like rocket fuel, shade-grown coffee, roasting chemistry, flimflam, atmospheric pressure, dead espresso, and the best way to brew it, in his opinion. Also: why it tastes better outside – for some of us. 

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A donation went to the Coffee Science Foundation, an arm of the Specialty Coffee Association

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Editing by Mercedes Maitland of Maitland Audio Productions and Jacob Chaffee

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Scheduling Producer: Noel Dilworth

Transcripts by Aveline Malek 

Website by Kelly R. Dwyer

Theme song by Nick Thorburn

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