Consciousness, Contact, and the Limits of Measurability |648|
Update: 2024-11-20
Description
Dr. Janis Whitlock seeks a deeper understanding of consciousness realms.
In Skeptiko episode 648, from near-death experiences to UFO encounters, mounting evidence challenges conventional models of consciousness and reality. Yet rather than abandon scientific rigor, we might need to embrace it.
The Conversation
A deep dive between Alex Tsakiris and Dr. Janis Whitlock exploring how we can bring scientific analysis to traditionally “unscientific” areas while acknowledging the limitations of our measurement tools. Some points from the interview:
1. Data Meets the Divine
“There are some themes that come out of really good data sets these days that do point to the idea that there are souls…that’s the theme that comes outta that data over and over and over.” – Dr. Janis Whitlock
“Let’s use the data. Let’s realize how limited it is, because we can’t really measure anything. But let’s use it to kind of nudge a little bit closer.” – Alex Tsakiris
2. The Quantum Reality Check
“When you say that consciousness is outside of time space…you can’t measure completely measure it… You’re over there in time space.” – Alex Tsakiris
3. Truth vs. Experience: The Ultimate Showdown
“I don’t fundamentally believe in truth… from a human perspective, the positiveness assumption that there is a truth that we can get to…” – Dr. Janis Whitlock
“I want to at least have the self-satisfaction of feeling I’m moving towards something called truth. And I’m going to use these familiar tools…called the Scientific Method.” – Alex Tsakiris
4. UFOs: Beyond Belief to Evidence
“We do know from a purely evidentiary perspective that…we have had contact. We do have craft, there are bodies, there is something there that is unequivocal at this point.” – Dr. Janis Whitlock
“The data set is might be corrupted…you can’t collect your data and then throw out cherry pick examples.” – Alex Tsakiris
The Bottom Line
This conversation challenges us to hold multiple perspectives – embracing scientific rigor while remaining open to phenomena that push the boundaries of conventional measurement and understanding.
🤔 What do you think? Can science and spirituality find common ground in data?
#Consciousness #UAP #Science #Spirituality #NDE
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Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQs1ooVEv8E1bpJq0GNCEVuj-qEd53OT3Sgn7l8K2s3D1ItoBexWf23pUWrT1A_jQzSSLMg0w2hZLNP/pubYoutube: https://youtu.be/Qu85Qo6ZyUo
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