DaBaby on surviving controversies, putting Charlotte on the map & Joe's robbing the gym story
Digest
This podcast explores various topics, beginning with the surprising revelation of Roald Dahl's past as a spy and its potential influence on his writing. It includes a conversation with Jamie Lee Curtis on Questlove's show, reflecting on her career and perspective at 67. A preview of the "Love Trapped" podcast highlights an investigation into a Bachelor star accused of faking a pregnancy. The majority of the content focuses on artist "The Baby," discussing his resilience against controversy, his determination in the music industry, his comeback, artistic integrity, and inspirations from North Carolina. He shares experiences with racism, navigating social media, the importance of visuals in music, his passion for performing, and details about his upcoming tour and new album. The discussion delves into his studio process, musical intuition, and the creation of hit songs. Personal aspects are also covered, including his current focus on family, culinary skills (or lack thereof), and experiences with the keto diet. The podcast touches upon instances of discrimination in restaurants and his philosophy on financial prudence, generational wealth, and legacy. Early life experiences involving petty crime and a past persona are recounted, alongside reflections on life, loss, and the value of struggle. Advertisements for various podcasts, including "The Secret World of Roald Dahl," "No Grip" (Formula 1 culture), and "Flagrant and Funny" (sports), are interspersed, along with announcements for the iHeart Radio Music Awards and a partnership with Capital One.
Outlines

Unveiling Roald Dahl's Secret Life and Celebrity Conversations
The podcast opens by revealing Roald Dahl's hidden past as a spy, setting the stage for exploring how his covert experiences might have influenced his famous children's stories. It then shifts to a conversation with actress Jamie Lee Curtis on Questlove's show, where she shares her reflections on life at 67 and her career. A preview of the "Love Trapped" podcast is also introduced, focusing on a Bachelor star accused of faking a pregnancy and the investigation by internet detectives.

The Baby's Journey: Resilience, Music, and Overcoming Controversy
This segment introduces artist "The Baby," discussing his resilience in the face of controversy, his unwavering principles, and his ability to remain "uncancelable." He shares his determination to succeed in the music industry, leaving the streets behind, and how peer encouragement helped him persevere. The conversation covers his comeback after being told his career was over, his renewed enjoyment in making music, and the organic nature of his recent hits. He also touches upon navigating initial setbacks, maintaining artistic integrity, and staying true to himself despite external pressures.

North Carolina Roots, Racism, and Social Media Challenges
The discussion explores musical inspirations from North Carolina, mentioning artists like Petey Pablo and J. Cole, and the support received from local radio. "The Baby" reflects on being a pioneer from Charlotte, NC, and the challenges of breaking ground for future artists. The conversation contrasts North Carolina's natural beauty with experiences of racism, including a specific incident at a restaurant. Instances of perceived racism and discrimination in airports and restaurants are recounted, highlighting their emotional impact. The overwhelming nature of social media and coping mechanisms are also touched upon, along with adapting to algorithm changes.

The Baby's Passion for Performance, New Album, and Creative Process
The importance of visuals in music is discussed, noting a song's strength without a video. "The Baby" expresses his deep passion for performing live and creating music videos, considering them his favorite aspects of the industry. Details about an upcoming tour and collaborations are shared. He discusses his new 23-track album, aiming for lyrical depth and hit songs. His studio process is described, emphasizing reliance on instinct and immediate connection to music, trusting his initial reaction to beats. The conversation explores how music evokes emotions and how he connects with beats to guide his lyrical expression.

Crafting Hits: Musical Ear, Production Evolution, and Industry Dynamics
"The Baby" asserts his exceptional ability to recognize beats and identify potential hits, emphasizing his deep understanding of music. The discussion revisits the evolution of music production and A&R, comparing past processes with the current landscape. He recounts securing beats for his hit songs, detailing the pressure on producers and the competitive nature of acquiring tracks. His approach to creating hit records is explained, highlighting his confidence in his creative process and his ability to overcome the pressure of a single successful formula, citing his decision to embrace a hardcore sound for "Lean Back." The art of crafting a memorable hook is emphasized, with "The Baby" highlighting his skill in this area.

Advertisements and Podcast Previews
This segment features advertisements for Hard Rock Bet, promoting their daily boosts and bonus offers during the March Madness tournament. It also includes previews for various podcasts: "The Secret World of Roald Dahl," exploring his spy career; "No Grip," delving into Formula 1 culture; and "Flagrant and Funny," offering unfiltered takes on sports moments, particularly relevant for tournament discussions. An announcement about Capital One's partnership with iHeart Women's Sports is also included.

Roald Dahl, Formula 1, and Celebrity Interviews Revisited
The podcast revisits Roald Dahl, further exploring his past as a spy and how his covert experiences might have influenced his children's stories. It introduces "No Grip," a podcast exploring Formula 1 culture, including discussions on female participation and significant events. NCAA women's basketball predictions are mentioned, highlighting potential challengers to UConn. Another segment from Questlove's conversation with Jamie Lee Curtis is shared, focusing on her Oscar win and a surprising prediction.

The Baby's Current Life: Family, Culinary Pursuits, and Dietary Choices
"The Baby" discusses his current focus on family, his hustle, and mentoring the next generation, while also touching upon his culinary skills. A friendly debate ensues about who is the better cook between him and Trick Daddy. He humorously admits to lacking basic cooking skills but appreciates good food. The conversation contrasts his daughter's healthy cooking with his preference for indulgent dishes. Mentions of Trick Daddy and Cool & Dre are made, and he elaborates on his favorite dishes. His experience with the keto diet, its challenges, and how restaurants can derail dietary efforts are discussed, including specific instances like Oxtail causing issues despite previous success.

Discrimination, Boycotts, and Past Restaurant Experiences
"The Baby" describes an incident in Atlanta where he and his group were denied entry to a restaurant, attributing it to reverse racism. He shares a story about a racist incident at an Italian restaurant in South Beach, which led to a boycott that he eventually broke due to the food's quality.

Family, Legacy, and Financial Prudence
"The Baby" emphasizes the paramount importance of family and his dedication to his children and extended family. He discusses how his children didn't initially grasp his fame. Reflections on his parents and his recent land purchase are shared. He outlines his philosophy on financial management, advocating for enjoying life while ensuring his children are provided for, contrasting it with past generations. Attending a funeral prompts a realization about life's brevity, leading to a desire to live more fully and spend money wisely. The concept of generational wealth and responsibility is discussed, contrasting his upbringing with the opportunities he aims to provide. He advises his family on financial responsibility, stressing that squandering his money is their own fault and advocating for a more modest lifestyle and downsizing from expensive properties.

Early Life, Criminal Activities, and Shifting Dynamics
The speaker recounts early life experiences, including instances of petty crime and a sense of needing to "start life" and "rob everybody" for survival. He details a past persona related to being overweight and how it influenced early criminal activities. A tense encounter with someone whose brother was a drug dealer leads to a change in how the speaker is perceived and treated.

Roald Dahl's Spy Career and Formula 1 Culture
This segment revisits Roald Dahl's secret life as a spy, including alleged seduction of wives of powerful Americans and affairs. It also discusses the lack of female participation in Formula 1 and the emergence of F1 romance novels, introducing the "No Grip" podcast that explores F1 culture.

Sports Predictions, Celebrity Interviews, and Overcoming Adversity
Experts discuss potential challengers to UConn in NCAA women's basketball. The "Flagrant and Funny" podcast is introduced for its unfiltered sports takes. A preview of Questlove's interview with Jamie Lee Curtis highlights their shared experiences and her Oscar win prediction. The speaker reflects on how hardships make achievements more valuable and appreciated.

Financial Ruin, Betrayal, and the "All the Way Up" Miracle
The speaker recounts losing millions due to financial and legal issues, experiencing betrayal from associates who disappeared during tough times. Despite immense past success and many followers, those same people vanished when faced with legal troubles. The release of the song "All the Way Up" is described as a miracle, leading to celebration but also resulting in the speaker cutting ties with former associates due to a perceived lack of loyalty.

Gratitude, Music Releases, and Strip Club Culture
Discussion revolves around the new album "Be More Grateful," its title track, and featured artists, with a special mention of the daughter's contribution. The speaker expresses deep gratitude for current success, emphasizing that the journey and struggles made the achievements more meaningful. The conversation shifts to releasing new music and observations about current strip club culture and its associated expenses. A musical interlude and reflection on being in a strip club are included.

Musical Performance, Hit Songs, and Roald Dahl Revisited
A song is performed, with commentary on its quality and the artist's ability to create hits. The importance of allowing musical hits to "breathe" and not forcing them is discussed, emphasizing natural success. A reminder about Roald Dahl's secret life as a spy and the podcast "The Secret World of Roald Dahl" is given.

Questlove's Interview with Jamie Lee Curtis and "Love Trap" Podcast
Questlove discusses his interview with Jamie Lee Curtis, touching on her career and perspective on life at 67. An introduction to the "Love Trap" podcast details a case of alleged deception involving a Bachelor star and a doctored pregnancy test. The iHeart Radio Music Awards are announced, including hosts, honorees, performers, and special appearances.
Keywords
Roald Dahl
British author known for children's books, also revealed to be a spy.
Spycraft
Espionage techniques, including Roald Dahl's covert activities during WWII.
Jamie Lee Curtis
Actress and producer discussing her career and perspective at 67.
Questlove Show
Podcast featuring interviews with artists and cultural figures.
Love Trapped Podcast
Investigates deception, focusing on a Bachelor star's alleged pregnancy hoax.
The Baby (Artist)
Resilient artist known for overcoming controversy and his music career.
Uncancelable Artist
An artist who maintains influence despite public criticism.
Music Industry Resilience
Artists' ability to withstand and recover from industry challenges.
North Carolina Music Scene
Musical landscape of North Carolina, producing notable hip-hop artists.
Charlotte Hip-Hop
Hip-hop music scene from Charlotte, NC, with "The Baby" as a pioneer.
Culinary Skills
Discussions about cooking abilities of artists like "The Baby" and Trick Daddy.
Keto Diet
"The Baby's" experience with the low-carb, high-fat diet and its challenges.
Racism and Discrimination
Personal experiences with prejudice in various locations.
Generational Wealth
Building and preserving assets for future generations.
Petty Crime
Early, less serious criminal activities related to survival.
Resilience
The capacity to recover quickly from difficulties.
Loyalty
Allegiance and support, particularly during difficult times.
Gratitude
Thankfulness and appreciation, especially after overcoming hardship.
Music Industry
Industries dealing with music performance, recording, and distribution.
Formula 1 Culture
Social and cultural aspects of Formula 1 racing.
NCAA Basketball
National Collegiate Athletic Association's basketball competitions.
Celebrity Interview
Conversations between media personalities and celebrities.
Deception
The act of misleading or tricking someone, a theme in "Love Trap."
Q&A
What surprising fact about Roald Dahl is revealed in the podcast?
The podcast reveals that Roald Dahl, the beloved author of children's books like "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory," was also a spy.
Who is Jamie Lee Curtis and what was discussed with Questlove?
Jamie Lee Curtis is an actress and producer. She discussed her perspective on life at 67 and her career with Questlove on his podcast.
What is the "Love Trapped" podcast about?
"Love Trapped" investigates a Bachelor star accused of faking a pregnancy, uncovering a pattern of deception with the help of internet detectives.
What makes "The Baby" an "uncancelable" artist?
"The Baby" is considered "uncancelable" due to his resilience in overcoming controversy, his perceived authenticity, and his ability to maintain a strong connection with his audience.
How did The Baby navigate challenges in the music industry?
He persevered through setbacks by focusing on his determination to succeed, receiving encouragement from peers, and staying true to his artistic vision.
What is The Baby's approach to creating music?
He relies heavily on instinct, connecting immediately with beats and allowing emotions to guide his lyrical expression, preferring a simple studio setup.
What is the significance of hooks in music, according to The Baby?
The Baby emphasizes that crafting a memorable hook is crucial for a hit song and considers himself highly skilled in this area, likening himself to the "Meth Man" of his crew for hook-writing.
What are some of The Baby's favorite aspects of his career?
He particularly enjoys performing live and being hands-on with creating music videos, considering these the most fulfilling parts of his work.
What is The Baby's philosophy on finances and legacy?
He believes in enjoying life and spending money while ensuring his children are provided for, advocating for financial responsibility and building generational wealth.
What challenges did The Baby face with the keto diet?
While successful on keto, he found that certain restaurant meals, like Oxtail, could still cause his blood sugar to spike, and noted that restaurants sometimes add hidden sugars.
What negative experiences did The Baby recount in Houston and Atlanta?
He described instances of perceived racism and discrimination in both cities, including being denied entry to restaurants, which led him to avoid returning to Houston.
What is The Baby's perspective on family and priorities?
He stresses that family is the most important thing, dedicating himself to being a father and supporting his children and extended family.
What does the speaker mean by "starting life" and "robbing everybody"?
This phrase refers to a period of early hardship and survival, where the speaker felt compelled to engage in criminal activities, even for sport, due to a lack of resources or opportunities.
How did the speaker's past persona influence their actions?
The speaker mentions a persona related to being overweight ("fat nigga") and how it was linked to their early criminal activities, including robbing people and distributing stolen goods among friends.
What is the significance of the "All the Way Up" song in the speaker's narrative?
"All the Way Up" is described as a "miracle" that brought renewed success. However, it also led to the speaker severing ties with former associates who had not supported them during their downfall.
What is the main theme of the "Be More Grateful" album?
The album's title and theme emphasize the importance of gratitude, especially after experiencing significant struggles and achieving success. The speaker feels grateful for their current position.
What surprising aspect of Roald Dahl's life is revealed?
The podcast "The Secret World of Roald Dahl" reveals that the beloved children's author was also a spy, allegedly involved in seducing influential figures and engaging in espionage.
What is the "No Grip" podcast about?
"No Grip" is a Formula 1 culture podcast that delves into underexplored aspects of the sport, including the lack of female participation, scandals, and unique events.
What is the central topic of the "Love Trap" podcast episode mentioned?
The episode discusses a case where a Bachelor star was accused of faking a pregnancy, and internet detectives uncovered a pattern of deception involving multiple men.
What is highlighted about Jamie Lee Curtis in the Questlove Show segment?
The segment focuses on Questlove's interview with Jamie Lee Curtis, emphasizing her candidness and perspective on life, particularly her achievements at age 67.
What lesson does the speaker draw from their past struggles?
The speaker believes that enduring hardship makes eventual success more valuable and appreciated. The journey, though difficult, is seen as worth the struggle.
Why did the speaker cut ties with their former associates after the success of "All the Way Up"?
Despite the song's success, the speaker felt betrayed by former friends who were absent during their difficult times. They felt these individuals lacked loyalty and did not deserve to share in the renewed success.
Show Notes
Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with DaBaby, who pulls up to Joe and Jada fresh off his new album ‘Be More Grateful’ and his current single ‘Pop Dat Thang’ that's taken over the hip hop charts and the clubs. Joe reflects on being in DaBaby's corner during his controversies and tells him that he’s always believed that there are some people, like himself and Dave Chappelle, that can’t be cancelled. The conversation gets into what it took to kick the door down coming out of Charlotte with no blueprint, how J. Cole and Petey Pablo also put on for North Carolina rap, and what it feels like to have your hometown ride for you when the rest of the world is trying to turn its back. Joe opens up about his own experiences losing everything to the IRS, watching fake loyalty disappear overnight, and the moment "All the Way Up" dropped and he turned around and fired every dude in his section. Plus, DaBaby calls out Trick Daddy to decide who’s the best chef in the rap game and asks Joe about his viral story of robbing everyone in his high school gym.
Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX!
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06:00 Joe on being in DaBaby's corner through controversies
10:30 Kicking the door down coming out of Charlotte
21:00 Joe's ear for hits: Stealing “Conceited” beat from Missy for Remy
33:00 DaBaby calls out Trick Daddy for a cook-off
50:00 Joe’s robbing the whole gym story
1:04:00 “Pop Dat Thang” listening session
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