So the thing about this is, it's about people, not about work – and I can absolutely guarantee that there will be something surprising in every episode. The industry is all about personal relationships, and this podcast is about the amazing people we meet every day in the gambling world.

We're learning as we go, as ever, so for now I won't put what they've chosen in the show notes, you can listen and find it out. But Alex was full of surprises! My favourite part though, was his advice for his younger self.

And discovering he likes musicals.

Get on it!