Matt Friend and iconic journalist Don Lemon on Don's transition from CNN to his new show, increased freedom in the streaming space, self-censoring in traditional media, Tucker Carlson and the difference of the on-camera persona and the actual person, performative behavior in conservative media, the importance of truth in journalism, the changes in media representation, the First Word Game, the strange pride in being insulted by Trump, what happens if Trump loses, Don’s advice to Matt on handling interviews, emphasizing the importance of silence, and Matt’s plan for the future.

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