Dr. Jennifer Berry, CEO of SmartLab
Update: 2025-12-08
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About the Guest
Dr Jennifer Berry is the CEO of Smartlab, an organisation dedicated to building STEM identity in K–12 learners through hands-on, project-based learning. With a background spanning professional dance, retail, customer experience, and education leadership, she brings a uniquely holistic perspective to how children learn. Her career has focused on non-traditional educational environments—from Montessori-inspired early learning to special education and supplemental tutoring—culminating in her leadership at Smartlab. Dr Berry’s work centres on empowering students with the confidence, curiosity, and problem-solving abilities needed to thrive in an increasingly AI-powered world.
Episode Summary
In this episode of Shape the System, host Vincent Turner explores the future of learning, STEM identity, and how technology is reshaping education with Dr Jennifer Berry. The conversation dives into what K–12 education looks like today in the United States—and why many schools remain unprepared for the speed and scale of change driven by AI. Dr Berry argues that while students must still learn the basics, the real opportunity lies in helping them develop the confidence, curiosity, and connective thinking needed to solve real-world problems.
Dr Berry shares her personal journey, from a kinesthetic learner who couldn’t sit still, to a professional dancer, to an education leader drawn to hands-on, project-based learning environments. These experiences shaped her passion for Smartlab’s integrated ecosystem: flexible, in-school STEM labs where students get access to real tools—robotics, circuitry, multimedia, design technology—and are encouraged to fail, iterate, and problem-solve in meaningful ways. She explains how STEM identity is not about careers in science and technology alone, but about a student’s self-belief that they belong, can master challenges, and that their ideas matter.
The episode also explores the widening gap between what schools teach and what employers need. With 80% of hiring managers saying high-school graduates are less prepared than in previous decades, Dr Berry stresses the importance of teaching communication, collaboration, critical thinking, and systems thinking—skills that cannot be automated. She highlights how Smartlab works with philanthropies like the Compost Foundation to bring these opportunities to under-resourced communities, ensuring upward mobility and creating a more equitable future.
Throughout the discussion, real stories bring the impact to life—from a 13-year-old in Oakland discovering future career paths through drone technology, to Dr Berry’s own daughter gaining confidence through assistive tools like speech-to-text. The episode closes with a powerful reminder: the hardest part of the work is the inequity, and the best part is watching doors open for students who otherwise would never have access to these learning experiences.
Key Takeaways
STEM identity is defined as a learner’s belief that they belong, can master rigorous challenges, and that their ideas have impact—skills essential across all industries.
School systems are struggling to keep pace with AI; 80% of hiring managers say graduates are less prepared than in past decades, and 69% of HR leaders report widening gaps in tech and analytics readiness.
Project-based STEM learning builds critical skills such as collaboration, communication, systems thinking, and comfort with failure.
Community partnerships—particularly philanthropy and corporate giving—play a vital role in bringing STEM opportunities to under-resourced schools.
Technology should support learning, not replace it; tools like speech-to-text can help students overcome challenges and build confidence.
Notable Quotes
“We define STEM identity as a learner’s self-belief that they belong, they can master rigorous challenges, and their ideas have an impact.”
— Dr Jennifer Berry
“I’m leaning less into teaching her the technology and more into teaching her to be a strong communicator, a strong collaborator… the soft skills.”
— Dr Jennifer Berry
“It isn’t the stuff. It’s the facilitator mentoring and guiding the student through the learning process.”
— Dr Jennifer Berry
“If only the few get the exposure to things, we continually just push down, push down, push down, and we all don’t rise together.”
— Dr Jennifer Berry
Resources
Smartlab — https://www.smartlablearning.com/?utm_source=shapethesystem.org
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More about KPMG High Growth Ventures
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More about KPMG High Growth Ventures
Scale up for success. We’re here for that.
We navigate founders and their teams to the services they need to reach
their next milestone.
From startup to scale and beyond. No matter where you are right now,
we’ll get you the help you need to drive your business forward. We help
founders fully realise their potential, as well as the potential of
their team and their business, by connecting them to the expertise,
skills and resources they need at every stage of their growth journey.
Our extensive experience in partnering with evolving businesses means
that we can provide you with tailored support as well as independent and
practical insights.
Whether you are looking to refine your strategy, establish your
operations, prepare for a capital raise, expand abroad or simply comply
with regulatory requirements, we are here to help.
Links:
Website: About (highgrowthventures.com.au)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/kpmg-enterprise-high-growth-ventures/
Contacts: highgrowthventures@kpmg.com.au
Dr Jennifer Berry is the CEO of Smartlab, an organisation dedicated to building STEM identity in K–12 learners through hands-on, project-based learning. With a background spanning professional dance, retail, customer experience, and education leadership, she brings a uniquely holistic perspective to how children learn. Her career has focused on non-traditional educational environments—from Montessori-inspired early learning to special education and supplemental tutoring—culminating in her leadership at Smartlab. Dr Berry’s work centres on empowering students with the confidence, curiosity, and problem-solving abilities needed to thrive in an increasingly AI-powered world.
Episode Summary
In this episode of Shape the System, host Vincent Turner explores the future of learning, STEM identity, and how technology is reshaping education with Dr Jennifer Berry. The conversation dives into what K–12 education looks like today in the United States—and why many schools remain unprepared for the speed and scale of change driven by AI. Dr Berry argues that while students must still learn the basics, the real opportunity lies in helping them develop the confidence, curiosity, and connective thinking needed to solve real-world problems.
Dr Berry shares her personal journey, from a kinesthetic learner who couldn’t sit still, to a professional dancer, to an education leader drawn to hands-on, project-based learning environments. These experiences shaped her passion for Smartlab’s integrated ecosystem: flexible, in-school STEM labs where students get access to real tools—robotics, circuitry, multimedia, design technology—and are encouraged to fail, iterate, and problem-solve in meaningful ways. She explains how STEM identity is not about careers in science and technology alone, but about a student’s self-belief that they belong, can master challenges, and that their ideas matter.
The episode also explores the widening gap between what schools teach and what employers need. With 80% of hiring managers saying high-school graduates are less prepared than in previous decades, Dr Berry stresses the importance of teaching communication, collaboration, critical thinking, and systems thinking—skills that cannot be automated. She highlights how Smartlab works with philanthropies like the Compost Foundation to bring these opportunities to under-resourced communities, ensuring upward mobility and creating a more equitable future.
Throughout the discussion, real stories bring the impact to life—from a 13-year-old in Oakland discovering future career paths through drone technology, to Dr Berry’s own daughter gaining confidence through assistive tools like speech-to-text. The episode closes with a powerful reminder: the hardest part of the work is the inequity, and the best part is watching doors open for students who otherwise would never have access to these learning experiences.
Key Takeaways
STEM identity is defined as a learner’s belief that they belong, can master rigorous challenges, and that their ideas have impact—skills essential across all industries.
School systems are struggling to keep pace with AI; 80% of hiring managers say graduates are less prepared than in past decades, and 69% of HR leaders report widening gaps in tech and analytics readiness.
Project-based STEM learning builds critical skills such as collaboration, communication, systems thinking, and comfort with failure.
Community partnerships—particularly philanthropy and corporate giving—play a vital role in bringing STEM opportunities to under-resourced schools.
Technology should support learning, not replace it; tools like speech-to-text can help students overcome challenges and build confidence.
Notable Quotes
“We define STEM identity as a learner’s self-belief that they belong, they can master rigorous challenges, and their ideas have an impact.”
— Dr Jennifer Berry
“I’m leaning less into teaching her the technology and more into teaching her to be a strong communicator, a strong collaborator… the soft skills.”
— Dr Jennifer Berry
“It isn’t the stuff. It’s the facilitator mentoring and guiding the student through the learning process.”
— Dr Jennifer Berry
“If only the few get the exposure to things, we continually just push down, push down, push down, and we all don’t rise together.”
— Dr Jennifer Berry
Resources
Smartlab — https://www.smartlablearning.com/?utm_source=shapethesystem.org
Shape the System is an independent podcast with support from KPMG High Growth Ventures
More about KPMG High Growth Ventures
Scale up for success. We’re here for that. We navigate founders and their teams to the services they need to reach their next milestone.
From startup to scale and beyond. No matter where you are right now, we’ll get you the help you need to drive your business forward. We help founders fully realise their potential, as well as the potential of their team and their business, by connecting them to the expertise, skills and resources they need at every stage of their growth journey.
Our extensive experience in partnering with evolving businesses means that we can provide you with tailored support as well as independent and practical insights.
Whether you are looking to refine your strategy, establish your operations, prepare for a capital raise, expand abroad or simply comply with regulatory requirements, we are here to help.
Links:
Website: About (highgrowthventures.com.au)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/kpmg-enterprise-high-growth-ventures/
Contacts: highgrowthventures@kpmg.com.au Shape the System is an independent podcast with support from KPMG High
Growth Ventures
More about KPMG High Growth Ventures
Scale up for success. We’re here for that.
We navigate founders and their teams to the services they need to reach
their next milestone.
From startup to scale and beyond. No matter where you are right now,
we’ll get you the help you need to drive your business forward. We help
founders fully realise their potential, as well as the potential of
their team and their business, by connecting them to the expertise,
skills and resources they need at every stage of their growth journey.
Our extensive experience in partnering with evolving businesses means
that we can provide you with tailored support as well as independent and
practical insights.
Whether you are looking to refine your strategy, establish your
operations, prepare for a capital raise, expand abroad or simply comply
with regulatory requirements, we are here to help.
Links:
Website: About (highgrowthventures.com.au)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/kpmg-enterprise-high-growth-ventures/
Contacts: highgrowthventures@kpmg.com.au
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