Dr. Michelle Fabiani & Dr. Fiona Greenland on CURIA Lab's Work to Measure the Impacts of Cultural Loss
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Show notes:
0:00 Dr. Fiona Greenland discussing collabarative work with Curia co-founder Dr. Michelle Fabiana
2:00 Dr. Michelle Fabiani's background
3:40 Dr. Greenland’s background
5:40 collaboration between Greenland and Fabiani
9:40 Informatics, the science of information
11:30 Syrian project - how robust and reliable data on scope of Syrian looting was with a review of remote sensing imagery
15:10 participants in Syrian project
17:20 Syrian project – evidence on whether there is a connection between Syrian civilian fatalities/casualties and cultural heritage looting
22:45 prelude hypothesis
27:50 war in Ukraine and its effects on Ukrainian culture
32:00 how the data is used to inform accountability
34:30 Greenland’s work with Conflict Observatory Ukraine
36:00 Ukrainians’ current restitution, reparations and accountability efforts
37:50 user guides for each area
42:30 Fabiani’s PhD project on Egyptian archeological looting
44:00 current project that builds on PhD project
46:00 impact of technology on their approach, including disinformation
50:00 complications created by AI, including generative AI
54:00 perspective of skepticism required
56:30 online risks and need for mitigation
58:15 how their work speaks to justice
58:30 Miranda Fricker’s book Epistemic Injustice: Power and the Ethics of Knowing
1:02:30 questions of justice for whom
1:05:30 Lauren Stein: question on the role of universities in Curia Lab
1:07:50 hope for their work to establish frameworks of cooperation and collaboration that cherish equal access to knowledge/information that would then lead to equal access to accountability
1:09:10 hope for their work to facilitate a shift to a multi-disciplinary approach
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