Spiral spiral spiral down this marionette piglet hole with Jaime & I in our epic discussion of the first spin-off in the Saw series! It is indeed number 9 in the franchise, yet technically not in continuity with the rest of the movies… confusing, we know… still- we chat in this episode about: what it really means to be punk rock, the 2000s tv show Ed, how such great actors can seem so miscast, muppets in non-muppet movies, another dude who is literally not jigsaw (bitch), and the hype for our final episode in the series of Saw X coming next week! As always, thanks for listening! The secret bonus episode for Halloween shall be revealed next episode, and released the Wednesday before Halloween. So; stay tuned, happy spooky season, and long live movies!