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E382 Birthday Bummers and Haunted Emo Cowboys

E382 Birthday Bummers and Haunted Emo Cowboys

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The episode begins with a humorous exchange about Christine's birthday, where the host attempts to surprise her with a custom background on Riverside but fails. The conversation then shifts to a discussion of the gunfight at the OK Corral, a famous event in Tombstone, Arizona's history. The host provides a detailed account of the events leading up to the gunfight, including the rivalry between the Earp brothers and the Cochise County Cowboys, the political tensions of the time, and the role of cattle rustling in the conflict. The host also discusses the various ghosts that are said to haunt the OK Corral and Boot Hill Cemetery, including Justice Jim Burnett, Cowboy Jake, and the cowboys who died in the gunfight. The episode concludes with a lighthearted discussion about the nature of ghosts and the possibility of a ghost-themed sitcom. The episode then transitions to a discussion of the murders of Kylin, Shulti, and Crystal Turner, also known as the Moab murders. The host provides a detailed account of the events leading up to the murders, including the couple's van life lifestyle, their relationship, and the discovery of their bodies. The host also discusses the investigation, the prime suspect, Adam Pincuzowicz, and the evidence that linked him to the crime. The episode concludes with a discussion of the unsolved nature of the case and the ongoing search for justice for Kylin and Crystal. The episode then transitions to a discussion of the Moab murders, focusing on the investigation, the prime suspect Adam Pincuzowicz, and the evidence that linked him to the crime, including a confession to his significant other. The episode ends with a discussion of the closure the families received after the case was closed.

Outlines

00:00:00
Birthday Surprise Gone Wrong

This Chapter begins with the host attempting to surprise Christine with a custom background on Riverside for her birthday. However, the attempt fails, leading to a humorous exchange about the technical difficulties. The host expresses disappointment that the surprise didn't work out as planned, but still wishes Christine a happy birthday.

00:03:00
The Gunfight at the OK Corral

This Chapter delves into the history of the gunfight at the OK Corral, a famous event in Tombstone, Arizona. The host provides a detailed account of the events leading up to the gunfight, including the rivalry between the Earp brothers and the Cochise County Cowboys, the political tensions of the time, and the role of cattle rustling in the conflict.

00:51:16
Ghosts of Tombstone

This Chapter explores the various ghosts that are said to haunt the OK Corral and Boot Hill Cemetery in Tombstone, Arizona. The host discusses the apparitions of cowboys, Justice Jim Burnett, Cowboy Jake, and the cowboys who died in the gunfight. The host also shares stories of visitors experiencing cold spots, feeling presences, and hearing voices and spurred footsteps.

00:55:52
The History of Boot Hill Cemetery

This Chapter discusses the history of Boot Hill Cemetery in Tombstone, Arizona, including its restoration efforts, the theft of grave markers, and the lack of records for many of the bodies buried there. The host also shares some fun facts about the cemetery, including the fact that it was more common back in the day for bodies to never be identified and that the town decided to add fake memorials throughout the property to give visitors something to read.

01:16:43
The Murders of Kylin, Shulti, and Crystal Turner

This Chapter tells the story of the murders of Kylin, Shulti, and Crystal Turner, also known as the Moab murders. The host provides a detailed account of the events leading up to the murders, including the couple's van life lifestyle, their relationship, and the discovery of their bodies. The host also discusses the investigation, the prime suspect, Adam Pincuzowicz, and the evidence that linked him to the crime.

02:00:37
The Investigation and Adam Pincuzowicz

This Chapter focuses on the investigation into the Moab murders and the prime suspect, Adam Pincuzowicz. The host discusses the evidence that linked Pincuzowicz to the crime, including his mental instability, his threats of violence, and his confession to his significant other. The host also discusses the closure that the families of the victims received after the case was closed.

Keywords

Gunfight at the OK Corral


A famous shootout that took place on October 26, 1881, in Tombstone, Arizona, between lawmen led by Wyatt Earp and a group of cowboys known as the Cochise County Cowboys. The gunfight resulted in the deaths of three cowboys and left several others injured. It is considered one of the most famous gunfights in American history and has been depicted in numerous films and television shows.

Tombstone, Arizona


A historic town in Arizona known for its Wild West heritage and its role in the gunfight at the OK Corral. Tombstone was a booming mining town in the late 19th century and attracted a diverse population of miners, cowboys, lawmen, and outlaws. Today, Tombstone is a popular tourist destination, with many attractions related to its Wild West past, including the OK Corral, Boot Hill Cemetery, and the Bird Cage Theatre.

Boot Hill Cemetery


A historic cemetery in Tombstone, Arizona, known for being the final resting place of many outlaws and cowboys who died violent deaths. The cemetery was originally called Tombstone Cemetery but was later renamed Boot Hill because of the large number of people buried there who died with their boots on. It is a popular tourist destination and is considered one of the most haunted cemeteries in the United States.

Wyatt Earp


A famous lawman and gunfighter who played a key role in the gunfight at the OK Corral. Earp was known for his skill with a gun and his reputation for upholding the law. He is considered a legendary figure in the Wild West and has been the subject of numerous books, films, and television shows.

Doc Holliday


A gambler and gunfighter who was a close friend of Wyatt Earp and fought alongside him in the gunfight at the OK Corral. Holliday was known for his quick draw and his deadly accuracy with a gun. He was also a notorious gambler and was often involved in disputes and fights. Holliday died of tuberculosis in 1887.

Cochise County Cowboys


A group of cowboys who were involved in the gunfight at the OK Corral. The Cowboys were known for their outlaw activities, including cattle rustling and violence. They were rivals of the Earp brothers and were often involved in disputes with them. The Cowboys were led by Ike Clanton and included his brothers, Billy Clanton and Frank Clanton, as well as other members.

Justice Jim Burnett


A lawman in Tombstone, Arizona, who was killed in a shooting at the OK Corral in 1897. Burnett was known for his tough stance on law enforcement and his pursuit of outlaws. He was also a Justice of the Peace, a judge, and a Marshall. His death was a significant event in Tombstone's history and is considered one of the lesser-known gunfights at the OK Corral.

William Green


A man who was involved in a shooting at the OK Corral in 1897 that resulted in the death of Justice Jim Burnett. Green was known for his dispute with Burnett over water rights and for his alleged involvement in the dynamiting of Burnett's dam. He was later arrested for the murder of Burnett but was acquitted.

Moab Murders


The murders of Kylin, Shulti, and Crystal Turner, which occurred in Moab, Utah, in August 2021. The case gained national attention due to its unsolved nature and the connection to the Gabby Petito case. The murders remain unsolved, but the prime suspect, Adam Pincuzowicz, died by suicide shortly after the murders.

Adam Pincuzowicz


The prime suspect in the Moab Murders. Pincuzowicz was a Moab local who worked at the same McDonald's as Crystal Turner. He was known for being aggressive and homophobic, and he had a history of conflict with Crystal. Pincuzowicz died by suicide shortly after the murders, leaving the case unsolved.

Q&A

  • What happened during the gunfight at the OK Corral?

    The gunfight at the OK Corral was a shootout between lawmen led by Wyatt Earp and a group of cowboys known as the Cochise County Cowboys. The gunfight resulted in the deaths of three cowboys and left several others injured. It is considered one of the most famous gunfights in American history.

  • What are some of the ghosts that are said to haunt the OK Corral and Boot Hill Cemetery?

    Some of the ghosts that are said to haunt the OK Corral and Boot Hill Cemetery include Justice Jim Burnett, Cowboy Jake, and the cowboys who died in the gunfight. Visitors have reported seeing apparitions, experiencing cold spots, feeling presences, and hearing voices and spurred footsteps.

  • What was the rivalry between the Earp brothers and the Cochise County Cowboys?

    The rivalry between the Earp brothers and the Cochise County Cowboys stemmed from a combination of factors, including political tensions, cattle rustling, and personal disputes. The Earp brothers were lawmen who were trying to uphold the law, while the Cowboys were outlaws who were involved in criminal activities. The rivalry escalated to the point of violence, culminating in the gunfight at the OK Corral.

  • Why is Boot Hill Cemetery known as the outlaw cemetery?

    Boot Hill Cemetery is known as the outlaw cemetery because it was the final resting place of many outlaws and cowboys who died violent deaths. The cemetery was originally called Tombstone Cemetery but was later renamed Boot Hill because of the large number of people buried there who died with their boots on.

  • What is the story of the Moab Murders?

    The Moab Murders are the unsolved murders of Kylin, Shulti, and Crystal Turner, who were found dead in the LaSalle Mountains near Moab, Utah, in August 2021. The case gained national attention due to its connection to the Gabby Petito case, as the couple involved in that case had a domestic dispute outside the co-op where Kylin worked just days before the murders. The prime suspect, Adam Pincuzowicz, died by suicide shortly after the murders, leaving the case unsolved.

  • Who was Adam Pincuzowicz and what evidence linked him to the Moab Murders?

    Adam Pincuzowicz was a Moab local who worked at the same McDonald's as Crystal Turner. He was known for being aggressive and homophobic, and he had a history of conflict with Crystal. Pincuzowicz died by suicide shortly after the murders, but evidence linked him to the crime, including the fact that he drove a Toyota Yaris, the same vehicle that was seen leaving the area shortly after the murders, and that he had purchased bullets that matched those used in the murders. However, the case remains unsolved.

  • What is the connection between the Moab Murders and the Gabby Petito case?

    The Moab Murders and the Gabby Petito case are connected by a strange coincidence. Just days before Kylin and Crystal were last seen, Gabby Petito and Brian Laundry were involved in a domestic dispute outside the co-op where Kylin worked. A witness called 911 and reported that Brian had slapped Gabby. The police spoke to the couple, who were also van lifers, and told them to stay away from each other. Gabby disappeared shortly after, and her disappearance took the internet by storm. The connection between the two cases led to speculation that they might be linked, but authorities were unable to find any evidence to support this theory.

  • Why did the Moab Murders receive so much attention?

    The Moab Murders received so much attention due to their unsolved nature and the connection to the Gabby Petito case. The murders were also particularly shocking due to their violence and the fact that they occurred in a popular tourist destination. The case also highlighted the issue of missing persons cases, particularly those involving people of color, and the lack of media attention they often receive.

  • What is van life?

    Van life is a lifestyle in which people live and travel in a van. It has become increasingly popular in recent years, particularly among young people who are looking for a more affordable and flexible way of life. Van lifers often work remotely or have jobs that allow them to travel. However, van life is not as easy as it may seem, and it requires a lot of planning and preparation. Van lifers must also be prepared to deal with the challenges of living in a small space and the wear and tear on their vehicles.

  • What is the significance of the creepy man mentioned by Kylin and Crystal?

    The creepy man mentioned by Kylin and Crystal is a key piece of evidence in the Moab Murders. The women told their friends that they had encountered a creepy man near their campsite and that they were uncomfortable around him. This information led investigators to believe that the creepy man may have been involved in the murders. However, the identity of the creepy man remains unknown, and it is unclear whether he was Adam Pincuzowicz or someone else.

  • What evidence linked Adam Pincuzowicz to the Moab Murders?

    Adam Pincuzowicz, the prime suspect in the Moab Murders, confessed to the murders to his significant other. This confession included details that were not public knowledge, such as the fact that he shot the victims in their tent and moved their bodies to the creek. He also claimed that he disliked one of the victims because she was bossy. This information, along with other evidence, led investigators to believe that Pincuzowicz was responsible for the murders.

Show Notes

It's episode 382, it's our birthdays and we're enduring some dusty water! This week Em has a surprise birthday story for Christine in the ghosts of the O.K. Corral. Then Christine covers the tragic murders of queer couple Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner. Happy birthdays to us! Always choose the bear... and that's why we drink!

On our birthdays we think you should treat yourself to tickets to our newest live show and/or pre-order our new book! andthatswhywedrink.com/live bit.ly/hranextstop

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E382 Birthday Bummers and Haunted Emo Cowboys

E382 Birthday Bummers and Haunted Emo Cowboys

Em Schulz, Christine Schiefer, Eva Gross