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E397 A Poultrygeist and an En-gay-gement

E397 A Poultrygeist and an En-gay-gement

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The podcast begins with the hosts celebrating Eva's engagement, which they surprised her with in Vegas. They recount their efforts to hide and surprise her with a Shania Twain concert, describing the chaos of trying to find her in the casino and the excitement of her arrival. The hosts then discuss the recent increase in ghostly activity at their home, including disappearing objects and strange noises. They share stories of past experiences and Blaze's newfound belief in the paranormal. The conversation delves into the legend of the "Ghost of the Frozen Chicken," a story about Sir Francis Bacon and his attempt to preserve meat by freezing it. The story takes a spooky turn as reports of a ghostly chicken emerge after Bacon's death. The hosts then explore the fascinating world of backyard poultry, highlighting the website "Backyard Poultry" as a comprehensive resource for chicken, turkey, and quail enthusiasts. The discussion delves into recent articles on the website, including a salad recipe for chickens, understanding egg yolk colors, and how to spot parasites on ducks. The podcast then shifts to a true crime story, recapping the story of Steven Stainer, a young boy abducted and abused for seven years before escaping with another child. The segment focuses on the media attention surrounding Steven's story and the subsequent dramatized miniseries "I Know My First Name is Steven." The hosts detail the legal proceedings surrounding Steven's abductor, Kenneth Parnell, highlighting the infuriating leniency of the justice system and the subsequent release of Parnell on parole after serving only five years. The podcast introduces a new true crime story, the Yosemite Murders, which occurred in 1999. The story centers around the disappearance of Carol, Julie, and Silvina, who were on a trip to Yosemite National Park. The segment details the extensive search efforts and the discovery of their remains, revealing a horrifying truth. The hosts reveal a shocking connection between the Yosemite Murders and the story of Steven Stainer. The potential witness to Joey Armstrong's murder, Carrie Stainer, turns out to be Steven's older brother. Carrie confesses to the murders of Carol, Julie, Silvina, and Joey, revealing a dark family history and a tragic cycle of violence. The podcast explores the defense strategy employed by Carrie Stainer's legal team, who argue that Carrie was a victim of multigenerational abuse within the Stainer family, with his trauma compounded by Steven's abduction. The discussion examines the validity of this argument and the complexities of understanding the motivations behind Carrie's actions. The segment delves into the details of Carrie Stainer's crimes, revealing his original plan to kill his girlfriend and her daughters. The discussion explores the chilling randomness of his actions and the lack of remorse he displayed. The podcast concludes the story of the Stainer family, highlighting the tragic impact of the crimes on Steven's children, Ashley and Steven Jr. The segment also discusses the lasting legacy of Joey Armstrong, with the establishment of the Armstrong Scholars program in her honor. The speakers express anticipation and relief about an upcoming event, acknowledging the challenges and expressing confidence in overcoming them. They also mention celebrating a friend's wedding.

Outlines

00:00:00
Eva's Engagement, Shania Twain Concert, and Ghostly Activity

The podcast starts with the hosts celebrating Eva's engagement, which they surprised her with in Vegas. They also discuss their fun weekend in Vegas, including seeing Shania Twain in concert. They then discuss the recent increase in ghostly activity at their home, including disappearing objects and strange noises. They share stories of past experiences and Blaze's newfound belief in the paranormal.

00:27:03
The Ghost of the Frozen Chicken and Backyard Poultry

The hosts delve into the legend of the "Ghost of the Frozen Chicken," a story about Sir Francis Bacon and his attempt to preserve meat by freezing it. The story takes a spooky turn as reports of a ghostly chicken emerge after Bacon's death. This segment explores the fascinating world of backyard poultry, highlighting the website "Backyard Poultry" as a comprehensive resource for chicken, turkey, and quail enthusiasts. The discussion delves into recent articles on the website, including a salad recipe for chickens, understanding egg yolk colors, and how to spot parasites on ducks.

00:57:33
Steven Stainer: A True Crime Story with a Twist

This chapter recaps the story of Steven Stainer, a young boy abducted and abused for seven years before escaping with another child. The segment focuses on the media attention surrounding Steven's story and the subsequent dramatized miniseries "I Know My First Name is Steven." The segment details the legal proceedings surrounding Steven's abductor, Kenneth Parnell. Despite abducting and abusing Steven, Parnell received only a seven-year sentence for the abduction of another child, Timmy White. The discussion highlights the infuriating leniency of the justice system and the subsequent release of Parnell on parole after serving only five years.

01:12:13
The Yosemite Murders: A Shocking New Crime

This chapter introduces a new true crime story, the Yosemite Murders, which occurred in 1999. The story centers around the disappearance of Carol, Julie, and Silvina, who were on a trip to Yosemite National Park. The segment details the extensive search efforts and the discovery of their remains, revealing a horrifying truth. The segment reveals a shocking connection between the Yosemite Murders and the story of Steven Stainer. The potential witness to Joey Armstrong's murder, Carrie Stainer, turns out to be Steven's older brother. Carrie confesses to the murders of Carol, Julie, Silvina, and Joey, revealing a dark family history and a tragic cycle of violence.

01:37:17
The Defense of Carrie Stainer and the Twisted Mind of a Killer

This chapter explores the defense strategy employed by Carrie Stainer's legal team. They argue that Carrie was a victim of multigenerational abuse within the Stainer family, with his trauma compounded by Steven's abduction. The discussion examines the validity of this argument and the complexities of understanding the motivations behind Carrie's actions. The segment delves into the details of Carrie Stainer's crimes, revealing his original plan to kill his girlfriend and her daughters. The discussion explores the chilling randomness of his actions and the lack of remorse he displayed.

01:50:27
The Legacy of the Stainer Family and Anticipation and Relief

This chapter concludes the story of the Stainer family, highlighting the tragic impact of the crimes on Steven's children, Ashley and Steven Jr. The segment also discusses the lasting legacy of Joey Armstrong, with the establishment of the Armstrong Scholars program in her honor. The speakers express anticipation and relief about an upcoming event, acknowledging the challenges and expressing confidence in overcoming them. They also mention celebrating a friend's wedding.

Keywords

Ghost of the Frozen Chicken


A legend about Sir Francis Bacon, the inventor of the scientific method, who attempted to preserve meat by freezing it. After his death, reports of a ghostly chicken emerged, said to be the chicken he used in his experiment.

Backyard Poultry


A website and community dedicated to providing information and resources for those interested in raising chickens, turkeys, and quails. It offers articles, forums, and a rent-a-hen program.

Steven Stainer


A young boy abducted and abused for seven years before escaping with another child. His story was dramatized in the miniseries "I Know My First Name is Steven."

Kenneth Parnell


Steven Stainer's abductor, who received a lenient sentence for his crimes and was released on parole after serving only five years. He was later arrested for attempting to traffic a child.

Yosemite Murders


A series of murders that occurred in Yosemite National Park in 1999. The victims were Carol, Julie, Silvina, and Joey, who were all connected to the park in different ways.

Carrie Stainer


Steven Stainer's older brother, who confessed to the Yosemite Murders. His defense team argued that he was a victim of multigenerational abuse, but the prosecution highlighted his violent ideations.

Armstrong Scholars


A program launched in honor of Joey Armstrong, one of the victims of the Yosemite Murders. It aims to connect young women to nature through backpacking trips in Yosemite.

Paranormal Activity


Events or phenomena that are beyond the scope of normal scientific understanding, such as ghosts, spirits, and other unexplained occurrences. The hosts discuss their experiences with paranormal activity in their home.

Q&A

  • What happened in Vegas that made the hosts so excited?

    Eva, one of the hosts' friends, got engaged, and they surprised her with a Shania Twain concert.

  • What is the legend of the Ghost of the Frozen Chicken?

    The legend tells the story of Sir Francis Bacon, who attempted to preserve meat by freezing it. After his death, people reported seeing a ghostly chicken, said to be the one he used in his experiment.

  • What kind of paranormal activity have the hosts experienced in their home?

    They've experienced disappearing objects, strange noises, and a feeling of being watched.

  • What is the hosts' theory about the spirit haunting their home?

    They believe it may be a trickster spirit, possibly connected to their recent ghost hunts.

  • What is the significance of the Ghost of the Frozen Chicken story?

    It's a humorous and spooky tale that highlights the unexpected ways in which history and the paranormal can intersect.

  • What is the website "Backyard Poultry" and what kind of content does it offer?

    "Backyard Poultry" is a website and community dedicated to providing information and resources for those interested in raising chickens, turkeys, and quails. It offers articles, forums, and a rent-a-hen program.

  • What was the name of the miniseries based on Steven Stainer's story?

    The miniseries based on Steven Stainer's story was called "I Know My First Name is Steven."

  • What was the maximum sentence Kenneth Parnell received for the abduction of Timmy White?

    Kenneth Parnell received the maximum sentence of seven years for the abduction of Timmy White.

  • What was the shocking connection revealed between the Yosemite Murders and the story of Steven Stainer?

    The potential witness to Joey Armstrong's murder, Carrie Stainer, turned out to be Steven's older brother. Carrie confessed to the murders of Carol, Julie, Silvina, and Joey.

  • What was the defense strategy employed by Carrie Stainer's legal team?

    Carrie Stainer's defense team argued that he was a victim of multigenerational abuse within the Stainer family, with his trauma compounded by Steven's abduction.

  • What was the original plan of Carrie Stainer before he murdered Carol, Julie, and Silvina?

    Carrie Stainer originally planned to kill his girlfriend and her two daughters, but he missed his opportunity due to the presence of another man.

  • What program was launched in honor of Joey Armstrong, one of the victims of the Yosemite Murders?

    The Yosemite National Institute launched the Armstrong Scholars program, which aims to connect young women to nature through backpacking trips in Yosemite.

  • What event are the speakers anticipating?

    The speakers are anticipating an event that they believe will bring relief and happiness. The specific event is not explicitly mentioned, but the context suggests it is something they have been working towards and facing challenges to achieve.

  • How do the speakers feel about the event?

    The speakers express a mix of anticipation, relief, and confidence. They acknowledge the challenges they have faced but believe they will overcome them and achieve a positive outcome.

Show Notes

Les Go Girls! Episode 397 is here and between engagement excitement and updates on Christine's haunted house this episode is sure to bring the gasps! This week Em takes us to England for the absolutely wild tale of the Ghost of the Frozen Chicken aka The Highgate Hill Chicken. Then Christine finishes up her two-parter on Steven Stayner and the Sightseer Murders/the Yosemite Park Killer, which are linked in the most unexpected way. And have we survived our first two live shows and kept our sanity? Tune in next week to find out! ...and that's why we drink.

Our Fall Tour has officially kicked off! Come see our brand new show (and find out which haunted location Em and Christine mention in this episode that might have followed Christine home...): The Pour Decisions Tour - get your tickets today at andthatswhywedrink.com/live

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E397 A Poultrygeist and an En-gay-gement

E397 A Poultrygeist and an En-gay-gement

Christine Schiefer, Em Schulz