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E399 Em's Day O' Fun and a Ghost Renovator

E399 Em's Day O' Fun and a Ghost Renovator

Update: 2024-09-29
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The podcast begins with a conversation about Christine's health and her struggles with insomnia. The conversation then shifts to the recent tour and the need for relaxation. Christine reveals her new hobby: cryptid photography. The podcast then delves into the history of a haunted Victorian mansion in Gardner, Massachusetts, owned by Sylvester Pierce, a furniture manufacturer. The town became known as "Chair City" due to Pierce's successful furniture business. The podcast recounts the tragic death of Sylvester Pierce's wife, Susan, shortly after they moved into the mansion. The mansion became a social hub for artists, politicians, and businessmen, attracting notable figures like President Coolidge and PT Barnum. The podcast explores Victorian mourning rituals, including the three stages of mourning: deep mourning, ordinary mourning, and half mourning. The podcast discusses the social expectations and practices associated with each stage, including clothing choices and the duration of mourning. The podcast continues the history of the mansion, detailing its changing ownership and eventual purchase by Lillian and Edwin, the main characters of the story. Lillian's fascination with the house leads them to purchase it despite Edwin's initial reservations. The podcast recounts Edwin's premonition about the house, where he dreams of floating into the mansion and witnessing an 1800s party. The next day, during a tour of the house, Edwin realizes that his dream accurately depicted the mansion's layout and even identifies the spot where he saw a man in black. The podcast describes the couple's experiences in the haunted mansion, including strange occurrences like moving objects, shadow figures, and the unusual behavior of their dogs. Lillian remains unfazed by the paranormal activity, while Edwin becomes increasingly uneasy. The story begins with Edwin, a man whose wife Lillian doesn't believe in spirits, experiencing a series of strange events in their new home, Pierce Manor. He sees a clear shadow person walking through the house, and the shadow even interacts with light sources. The neighbors start noticing unusual activity in the house, including Lillian painting constantly despite the cold weather and a young boy running from room to room. Edwin denies these claims, but the neighbors' observations raise questions about the house's true inhabitants. Edwin's discomfort grows as he experiences more unsettling events. He sees a dark shadow morphing into a man, and then encounters a man in flannel who vanishes into thin air. He leaves the house for some fresh air and learns that a man across the street had just died of a heart attack at the same time he saw the man in his house. Edwin and Lillian research the history of Pierce Manor and discover that at least five people, including Sylvester Pierce, his wives, daughter-in-law, granddaughter, and a renter, died in the house. Rumors also suggest that the youngest son turned the house into a gambling hall and brothel, where a sex worker may have also died. Edwin wakes up to find Lillian humming and dressed nicely, which is unusual for her. She doesn't respond to him and walks through the cold rooms without seeming to mind. Later, Edwin discovers that Lillian has been digging in the basement all day, her clothes filthy. Lillian finds a pelvic bone while digging in the basement. The police are called, and it's discovered that the bone is animal, not human. Lillian is disappointed, believing the boy she and the neighbors saw was murdered and buried in the house. New neighbors move in, and their son also sees the boy in the window. The activity in the house becomes even more undeniable. Window screens blow in with no wind, dishes fall, doors open and close, and children's footsteps are heard in the attic. Lillian challenges the spirits to reveal themselves, and a demonic roar is heard in response. Edwin creates a Facebook page about the house, seeking information and attracting paranormal investigators. He allows them to stay overnight and charges fees to renovate the house. Lillian, however, is uncomfortable with strangers in their home. The more people investigate the house, the more active the hauntings become. Growling is heard throughout the house, EVPs with strange commands are recorded, and things follow people home. One woman is pushed down the stairs and caught by something else. Psychics and mediums visit the house and report seeing a woman strangled to death in one of the bedrooms, two dark entities in the basement, and a little girl greeting people in the hallways. One investigator is scratched in the shape of the Roman numeral four and hears a voice saying "Squeeze every throat." A psychic reveals that a ghost named Maddie, who used to watch over the Pierce children, is still in the house and trying to manage the other spirits. However, she is losing control due to the influx of new spirits brought in by the investigators. During a final investigation, Lillian faints and doesn't wake up for three days. Edwin is also in a trance and can't remember anything from those three days. The only thing he remembers is seeing a woman in white floating upstairs and sobbing uncontrollably. Edwin and Lillian decide to move out of the house after Lillian is paralyzed in bed and screams for Edwin to get something off of her. They move in with Lillian's sister, and continue the tours despite the unsettling events. Zachary, a paranormal investigator, buys out the entire house for an investigation. The city eventually shuts down the tours due to conflict between the psychics and local investigators. The house is now open for history tours, but paranormal investigations are forbidden. Zachary mentions a man named Jay Stemmerman who lived in the house, but no sources confirm his existence. A researcher suggests that Jay may have brought darkness to the house, but refuses to comment further. During Zachary's investigation, the team experiences strange events, including loud bangs, shuffling sounds, a camera dying, a woman's voice, something touching Aaron's shoulder, and an EVP saying "go to sleep." The spirit box reveals the name David, a name heard earlier in the investigation, and a little girl saying "hi." The episode shifts to an extended update on the Gypsy Rose Blanchard case, covering her release from prison and new information about her life. The hosts discuss their previous episode on the case and how their podcasting style has evolved over the years. Gypsy Rose Blanchard was born in 1991. Her father, Rod, was 17 when he found out about the pregnancy and married Dee Dee, but they separated soon after. Dee Dee began fabricating illnesses for Gypsy, claiming she had sleep apnea, a chromosomal genetic disorder, and muscular dystrophy. Gypsy was diagnosed with avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder and received a feeding tube. Dee Dee used this to control Gypsy's food intake and administer medication. Gypsy's family noticed that she was eating normally and walking when Dee Dee was in the hospital, but she returned to her wheelchair and feeding tube when Dee Dee came home. Gypsy's family discovered that Dee Dee was poisoning her own stepmother with weed killer. They kicked Dee Dee out of the house, and Gypsy and Dee Dee faced housing insecurity and moved frequently. Gypsy and Dee Dee were living in New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina hit, destroying their apartment complex. Dee Dee neglected to contact her family, seemingly enjoying the attention and worry. They were flown to a hospital by helicopter, and Dee Dee relished the special treatment. This chapter delves into Dee Dee's manipulative behavior, including fabricating diagnoses and exploiting Gypsy's trust. It explores the challenges Gypsy faced in escaping her mother's control and the consequences of her actions. This chapter focuses on Gypsy's move into a new home and Dee Dee's continued manipulation of her daughter. It highlights the impact of Dee Dee's actions on Gypsy's life and the challenges she faced in navigating her own identity. This chapter explores Gypsy's secret online life and her encounter with Nicholas Godejohn at a sci-fi convention. It examines the complexities of their relationship and the role it played in Gypsy's eventual escape. This chapter details the events leading up to Dee Dee's murder, including Gypsy's escape attempt, her return home, and the subsequent punishment she endured. It culminates in the tragic death of Dee Dee at the hands of Nicholas. This chapter explores the aftermath of Dee Dee's murder, including Gypsy's arrest, her time in prison, and her eventual release. It examines the challenges she faced in navigating her newfound freedom and the complexities of her story.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction, Christine's Health, and Insomnia

The podcast begins with a brief introduction and a conversation about Christine's health. She mentions having a sinus infection and insomnia, which is affecting her recovery.

00:00:11
Christine's Insomnia and the Woes of Being a Mom

Christine describes her struggles with insomnia, explaining that she can't fall asleep and wakes up frequently throughout the night. She compares her experience to the challenges of being a mom and having to run after a child.

00:01:08
The Tour and the Need for Relaxation

The conversation shifts to the recent tour and the need for relaxation. Christine expresses her hope that her body will eventually reset and she'll be able to sleep properly.

00:01:11
Christine's New Hobby: Cryptid Photography

Christine reveals her new hobby: cryptid photography. She plans to create a website dedicated to documenting her encounters with Mothman.

00:15:00
Squarespace Advertisement

The podcast includes an advertisement for Squarespace, highlighting its features and benefits for entrepreneurs and businesses.

00:16:39
The Haunted Victorian Mansion: Sylvester Pierce and Chair City

The podcast delves into the history of a haunted Victorian mansion in Gardner, Massachusetts, owned by Sylvester Pierce, a furniture manufacturer. The town became known as "Chair City" due to Pierce's successful furniture business.

00:19:43
The Pierce Family Tragedy and the Mansion's Early Years

The podcast recounts the tragic death of Sylvester Pierce's wife, Susan, shortly after they moved into the mansion. The mansion became a social hub for artists, politicians, and businessmen, attracting notable figures like President Coolidge and PT Barnum.

00:21:11
Victorian Mourning Rituals and Their Impact

The podcast explores Victorian mourning rituals, including the three stages of mourning: deep mourning, ordinary mourning, and half mourning. The podcast discusses the social expectations and practices associated with each stage, including clothing choices and the duration of mourning.

00:29:15
The Mansion's Later Years and the Arrival of Lillian and Edwin

The podcast continues the history of the mansion, detailing its changing ownership and eventual purchase by Lillian and Edwin, the main characters of the story. Lillian's fascination with the house leads them to purchase it despite Edwin's initial reservations.

00:34:35
Edwin's Premonition and the Ghostly Encounter

The podcast recounts Edwin's premonition about the house, where he dreams of floating into the mansion and witnessing an 1800s party. The next day, during a tour of the house, Edwin realizes that his dream accurately depicted the mansion's layout and even identifies the spot where he saw a man in black.

00:37:09
The Haunted Mansion's Legacy and the Couple's Experiences

The podcast describes the couple's experiences in the haunted mansion, including strange occurrences like moving objects, shadow figures, and the unusual behavior of their dogs. Lillian remains unfazed by the paranormal activity, while Edwin becomes increasingly uneasy.

00:46:48
Edwin's Experiences and the Shadowy Figure

The story begins with Edwin, a man whose wife Lillian doesn't believe in spirits, experiencing a series of strange events in their new home, Pierce Manor. He sees a clear shadow person walking through the house, and the shadow even interacts with light sources.

00:49:34
The Neighbors' Observations and Unusual Activity

The neighbors start noticing unusual activity in the house, including Lillian painting constantly despite the cold weather and a young boy running from room to room. Edwin denies these claims, but the neighbors' observations raise questions about the house's true inhabitants.

00:52:10
Edwin's Growing Discomfort and Unsettling Encounters

Edwin's discomfort grows as he experiences more unsettling events. He sees a dark shadow morphing into a man, and then encounters a man in flannel who vanishes into thin air. He leaves the house for some fresh air and learns that a man across the street had just died of a heart attack at the same time he saw the man in his house.

00:53:47
The History of Pierce Manor and Its Tragic Past

Edwin and Lillian research the history of Pierce Manor and discover that at least five people, including Sylvester Pierce, his wives, daughter-in-law, granddaughter, and a renter, died in the house. Rumors also suggest that the youngest son turned the house into a gambling hall and brothel, where a sex worker may have also died.

00:55:26
Lillian's Strange Behavior and Basement Discovery

Edwin wakes up to find Lillian humming and dressed nicely, which is unusual for her. She doesn't respond to him and walks through the cold rooms without seeming to mind. Later, Edwin discovers that Lillian has been digging in the basement all day, her clothes filthy. Lillian finds a pelvic bone while digging in the basement. The police are called, and it's discovered that the bone is animal, not human. Lillian is disappointed, believing the boy she and the neighbors saw was murdered and buried in the house. New neighbors move in, and their son also sees the boy in the window.

01:00:44
The Hauntings Intensify and Lillian's Challenge

The activity in the house becomes even more undeniable. Window screens blow in with no wind, dishes fall, doors open and close, and children's footsteps are heard in the attic. Lillian challenges the spirits to reveal themselves, and a demonic roar is heard in response.

01:01:40
Edwin's Facebook Page and Ghost Hunters

Edwin creates a Facebook page about the house, seeking information and attracting paranormal investigators. He allows them to stay overnight and charges fees to renovate the house. Lillian, however, is uncomfortable with strangers in their home.

01:05:49
The Hauntings Escalate with Investigations

The more people investigate the house, the more active the hauntings become. Growling is heard throughout the house, EVPs with strange commands are recorded, and things follow people home. One woman is even pushed down the stairs and caught by something else.

01:06:47
Psychic Revelations and a Scratching Entity

Psychics and mediums visit the house and report seeing a woman strangled to death in one of the bedrooms, two dark entities in the basement, and a little girl greeting people in the hallways. One investigator is scratched in the shape of the Roman numeral four and hears a voice saying "Squeeze every throat."

01:09:05
Maddie, the Caretaker, Loses Control

A psychic reveals that a ghost named Maddie, who used to watch over the Pierce children, is still in the house and trying to manage the other spirits. However, she is losing control due to the influx of new spirits brought in by the investigators.

01:10:56
Lillian's Fainting Spell and Edwin's Trance

During a final investigation, Lillian faints and doesn't wake up for three days. Edwin is also in a trance and can't remember anything from those three days. The only thing he remembers is seeing a woman in white floating upstairs and sobbing uncontrollably.

01:12:40
The Final Straw and Moving Out

Edwin and Lillian decide to move out of the house after Lillian is paralyzed in bed and screams for Edwin to get something off of her. They move in with Lillian's sister, and continue the tours despite the unsettling events.

01:14:15
Zachary's Investigation and the House's Closure

Zachary, a paranormal investigator, buys out the entire house for an investigation. The city eventually shuts down the tours due to conflict between the psychics and local investigators. The house is now open for history tours, but paranormal investigations are forbidden.

01:15:35
The Mystery of Jay Stemmerman

Zachary mentions a man named Jay Stemmerman who lived in the house, but no sources confirm his existence. A researcher suggests that Jay may have brought darkness to the house, but refuses to comment further.

01:16:23
Zachary's Investigation and Spirit Box Revelations

During Zachary's investigation, the team experiences strange events, including loud bangs, shuffling sounds, a camera dying, a woman's voice, something touching Aaron's shoulder, and an EVP saying "go to sleep." The spirit box reveals the name David, a name heard earlier in the investigation, and a little girl saying "hi."

01:24:31
Gypsy Rose Blanchard: An Update

The episode shifts to an extended update on the Gypsy Rose Blanchard case, covering her release from prison and new information about her life. The hosts discuss their previous episode on the case and how their podcasting style has evolved over the years.

01:32:17
Gypsy Rose's Early Life and Dee Dee's Lies

Gypsy Rose Blanchard was born in 1991. Her father, Rod, was 17 when he found out about the pregnancy and married Dee Dee, but they separated soon after. Dee Dee began fabricating illnesses for Gypsy, claiming she had sleep apnea, a chromosomal genetic disorder, and muscular dystrophy.

01:41:07
Gypsy's Feeding Tube and Dee Dee's Control

Gypsy was diagnosed with avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder and received a feeding tube. Dee Dee used this to control Gypsy's food intake and administer medication. Gypsy's family noticed that she was eating normally and walking when Dee Dee was in the hospital, but she returned to her wheelchair and feeding tube when Dee Dee came home.

01:44:24
Dee Dee's Poisoning of Her Stepmother

Gypsy's family discovered that Dee Dee was poisoning her own stepmother with weed killer. They kicked Dee Dee out of the house, and Gypsy and Dee Dee faced housing insecurity and moved frequently.

01:45:33
Hurricane Katrina and Dee Dee's Manipulation

Gypsy and Dee Dee were living in New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina hit, destroying their apartment complex. Dee Dee neglected to contact her family, seemingly enjoying the attention and worry. They were flown to a hospital by helicopter, and Dee Dee relished the special treatment.

01:47:12
Dee Dee's Manipulation and Gypsy's Escape

This chapter delves into Dee Dee's manipulative behavior, including fabricating diagnoses and exploiting Gypsy's trust. It explores the challenges Gypsy faced in escaping her mother's control and the consequences of her actions.

01:56:07
Gypsy's New Life and Dee Dee's Deception

This chapter focuses on Gypsy's move into a new home and Dee Dee's continued manipulation of her daughter. It highlights the impact of Dee Dee's actions on Gypsy's life and the challenges she faced in navigating her own identity.

02:03:53
Gypsy's Online Escape and Nicholas's Arrival

This chapter explores Gypsy's secret online life and her encounter with Nicholas Godejohn at a sci-fi convention. It examines the complexities of their relationship and the role it played in Gypsy's eventual escape.

02:10:20
The Murder of Dee Dee Blanchard

This chapter details the events leading up to Dee Dee's murder, including Gypsy's escape attempt, her return home, and the subsequent punishment she endured. It culminates in the tragic death of Dee Dee at the hands of Nicholas.

02:21:04
The Aftermath and Gypsy's Release

This chapter explores the aftermath of Dee Dee's murder, including Gypsy's arrest, her time in prison, and her eventual release. It examines the challenges she faced in navigating her newfound freedom and the complexities of her story.

Keywords

Cryptid Photography


A new hobby involving capturing images of cryptids, mythical creatures whose existence is not scientifically proven. It involves exploring remote areas, using specialized equipment, and analyzing captured images for evidence.

Victorian Mourning Rituals


A set of social customs and practices observed during the Victorian era to express grief and respect for the deceased. These rituals included wearing specific clothing, observing a period of seclusion, and adhering to strict social etiquette.

Shadow Figures


Apparitions or shadowy forms that are often seen in the periphery of vision or in dimly lit areas. They are frequently associated with paranormal activity and can be perceived as a sign of a ghostly presence.

Mothman


A cryptid reported to have been sighted in Point Pleasant, West Virginia, in the 1960s. It is described as a large, winged creature with glowing red eyes, often associated with ominous events.

Chair City


A nickname for the town of Gardner, Massachusetts, known for its furniture manufacturing industry, particularly chairs. The nickname is attributed to the success of Sylvester Pierce's furniture business.

Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy (MSbP)


A mental health disorder where a caregiver fabricates or exaggerates a child's illness for attention or sympathy. The caregiver may intentionally harm the child to maintain the sick role.

Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder (ARFID)


An eating disorder characterized by a persistent lack of interest in eating or avoidance of food due to sensory concerns, fear of choking, or other anxieties.

Spirit Box


An electronic device used in paranormal investigations to communicate with spirits. It scans radio frequencies and plays snippets of audio, which investigators interpret as messages from spirits.

EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon)


Sounds recorded on electronic devices that are believed to be voices of spirits. EVPs are often faint and require careful listening and analysis to decipher.

Q&A

  • What are the three stages of Victorian mourning rituals?

    The three stages of Victorian mourning rituals are deep mourning, ordinary mourning, and half mourning. Each stage has specific clothing requirements and a designated duration, depending on the relationship with the deceased.

  • What is Christine's new hobby, and what is her plan for it?

    Christine's new hobby is cryptid photography. She plans to create a website dedicated to documenting her encounters with Mothman, using Squarespace to build the website.

  • What is the significance of the mansion's nickname "Chair City"?

    The mansion's owner, Sylvester Pierce, was a successful furniture manufacturer, particularly chairs. His business success led to the town of Gardner, Massachusetts, being nicknamed "Chair City."

  • What is the main paranormal event that Edwin experiences in the mansion?

    Edwin experiences a premonition where he dreams of floating into the mansion and witnessing an 1800s party. The next day, during a tour of the house, he realizes that his dream accurately depicted the mansion's layout and even identifies the spot where he saw a man in black.

  • What is the significance of the no-photo rule in the mansion?

    The no-photo rule was implemented to prevent paranormal investigators from posing as prospective buyers to gain access to the mansion and take pictures for their investigations.

  • What were some of the strange events that Edwin experienced in Pierce Manor?

    Edwin saw a clear shadow person walking through the house, witnessed the shadow interacting with light sources, and saw a man in flannel who vanished into thin air. He also heard a woman singing at night, had covers yanked off of him while sleeping, and experienced doors slamming so loud that the house shook.

  • How did the neighbors' observations contribute to the mystery surrounding Pierce Manor?

    The neighbors noticed Lillian painting constantly despite the cold weather and a young boy running from room to room. These observations, which Edwin denied, raised questions about the house's true inhabitants and fueled speculation about paranormal activity.

  • What did Edwin and Lillian discover about the history of Pierce Manor?

    They learned that at least five people had died in the house, including Sylvester Pierce, his wives, daughter-in-law, granddaughter, and a renter. Rumors also suggest that the youngest son turned the house into a gambling hall and brothel, where a sex worker may have also died.

  • How did the paranormal investigations affect the activity in the house?

    The more people investigated the house, the more active the hauntings became. Growling was heard throughout the house, EVPs with strange commands were recorded, and things followed people home. One woman was even pushed down the stairs and caught by something else.

Show Notes

It’s Episode 399 and there’s drama in Chair City! Today Em takes us to Massachusetts for the tale of the haunted S.K. Pierce Mansion, complete with a ghost who paints. Then Christine brings us her very first case update (and recap) all the way back from Episode 15 with the story of Gypsy-Rose Blanchard. And have we always been in an apple orchard? Our Ovilus seems to think so… and that’s why we drink!


Our new book A Haunted Road Atlas: Next Stop is finally here! Check out your local indie bookstore or visit bit.ly/HRANextStop to get your copy today!


Come see our brand new live show: The Pour Decisions Tour which is sure to bring plenty of gasps, laughs, and frights! Get your tickets at: andthatswhywedrink.com/live

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E399 Em's Day O' Fun and a Ghost Renovator

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Christine Schiefer, Em Schulz