Why Listen: 

If you’re navigating AI and automation in recruitment, this conversation helps you cut through the hype and focus on skills-based assessment—so you can hire smarter, faster, and fairer. 

 Description:  

I sit down with a senior director at Indeed to unpack the promise—and the practicalities—of skills-first hiring in today’s Canadian labour market. We cover what’s broken about degree and tenure “gatekeeping,” how HR and hiring managers can align around measurable competencies, and where AI can actually de-risk evaluation instead of adding noise. Along the way, we talk tenure gains when degree screens are dropped, why learning & development is a top decision driver for applicants, and how generalists can finally be seen for transferable strengths. If you care about better matches, fairer access, and making hiring simpler and smarter, this one’s for you. 

 Key Highlights:  

• Skills-first hiring: Hire for demonstrable capability, not proxies like degrees or minimum years.  

• Market context: Unemployment is up; openings are down—prime time to widen talent pools and revisit screens.  

• Data points: 78% of job seekers weigh L&D heavily; ~32% report barriers from degree/years requirements; dropping degree screens has been linked to ~20% longer tenure.  

• AI in TA: Only ~27% of Canadian employers use AI in hiring; used well, it can standardize and scale skill assessment.  

• HR & hiring managers: Define “what good looks like,” agree on risk tolerance (e.g., the “70/30 fit”), and test for competencies early. 

 About Stepan: 

As a Senior Director at Indeed, Stepan Arman is at the forefront of bringing the company's vision and strategy to life. His experience managing teams that work directly with both job seekers and employers gives him a unique and insightful perspective into the world of work. With a decade of leadership in human resources, spanning everything from small businesses to global organizations, Stepan has developed a deep understanding of the challenges facing both sides of the workforce. He has a proven track record of partnering with countless companies to solve their most complex problems, whether it's developing workforce strategies, strengthening culture, or enriching the employee experience 

  Find Stepan Here 

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stepanarman/ 

• Website: indeed.ca

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