I moved my Friesian gelding Jelle into a new home, an abandoned farm on the outskirts of Amsterdam. Though we relished in the freedom to be able to do what we wanted, the events that unfolded there were unexpected and pretty soon we had to move again.

This is a true story of a woman who struggles with the ups- and downs of life and the consequences of her choices.

Elke Mastwijk in conversation with Rebecca Gwynn-Jones

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Editing and music: Gijs Graafmans

Photography: www.maybelpictures.com

Anne Boin: www.ahappyhorse.nl

Elke Mastwijk: www.intouchwithelke.com

Susan Harden: www.liveandbreathehorses.com