EP272 More Than Just Packets: Is NDR a "First-Class" Cloud Security Control?
Update: 2026-04-13
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Guest:
- Raja Mukerji, Co-Founder & Chief Scientist, Extrahop
- Rafal Los, VP of Client Relations and Strategic Initiatives, Extrahop
Topics:
- Is Network Detection and Response (NDR) coming back after being shoved to the side by EDR a bit? Is this for real?
- What's the value proposition of NDR in 2026, because some people still don't understand it? How does NDR apply to the world of WFH, cloud/SaaS, encryption, high bandwidth, etc?
- Is the value of NDR the same, or different, when it comes to public (or private) cloud?
- How does NDR fill visibility gaps that identity and agent-based solutions cannot?
- What does NDR offer that built-in cloud security tooling (as of right now) does not? Would you call NDR a key cloud security control?
- Does NDR help with shadow AI?
- NDR elephant in the room is sometimes cost. How does cost change the value prop when compared to on-premise or physical infrastructure?
Resources:
- Video version
- EP267 AI SOC or AI in a SOC? Cutting Through Hype, Pricing Models, and SIEM Detection Efficacy with Raffy Marty
- EP113 Love it or Hate it, Network Security is Coming to the Cloud
- EP154 Mike Schiffman: from Blueboxing to LLMs via Network Security at Google
- EP115 How to Approach Cloud in a Cloudy Way, not As Somebody Else's Computer?
- EP263 SOC Refurbishing: Why New Tools Won't Fix Broken Processes (Even With AI)
- "The GC+CISO Connection Book" book
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