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Elections, Now & Then (with Joanne Freeman)

Elections, Now & Then (with Joanne Freeman)

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This episode of Stay Tuned features a conversation with Joanne Freeman, a leading expert on American political history, to discuss the assassination attempt on former President Trump, President Biden's decision not to seek reelection, and Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential campaign. The episode also includes a special conversation with Z-Shan B, whose new album Preet Barara executive produced. Preet Barara addresses a listener question about the feasibility of SCOTUS reforms proposed by President Biden, explaining that these reforms would likely require a constitutional amendment, which is a difficult process given the current political climate. He then discusses the legal issues surrounding the classified documents case against Donald Trump, specifically Judge Cannon's dismissal of the indictment and the potential for the 11th Circuit to reverse her decision. He analyzes the legal arguments and the timing of the appeal. Barara responds to a listener question about the legal implications of his song recommendations on Twitter, discussing his role as executive producer for Z-Shan B's new album and his personal enjoyment of sharing music with his followers. Barara and Freeman then delve into the recent political events, including the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, President Biden's decision not to seek reelection, and Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential campaign. They discuss the impact of technology on democracy and the role of political rhetoric in shaping the current political climate. Freeman analyzes the assassination attempt on Donald Trump in the context of American history, discussing the role of rhetoric and the normalization of violence in politics. She explores the potential consequences of a successful assassination attempt and the reactions of political adversaries. Barara and Freeman discuss the media's short attention span and the rapid shift in focus from the assassination attempt to other news events. They also examine the prevalence of conspiracy theories in the current political climate and the challenges of discerning truth from falsehood in the digital age. They compare Ronald Reagan's and Donald Trump's responses to assassination attempts, discussing the historical context of each event and the potential impact on their political fortunes. Barara and Freeman discuss President Biden's decision not to seek reelection, examining historical analogs and the unique circumstances surrounding his decision. They explore the implications of his withdrawal for the Democratic Party and the 2024 election. They discuss Nancy Pelosi's legacy and her influence as Speaker of the House, acknowledging her consequential leadership and the challenges she faced as a woman in a male-dominated political arena. Barara and Freeman discuss Kamala Harris' presidential campaign and the criticism she has faced, particularly regarding her laugh. They analyze the gendered nature of this criticism and its implications for women in politics. They discuss the unexpected turn of events in the Democratic primary, particularly the swift and enthusiastic support for Kamala Harris following President Biden's withdrawal from the race. They analyze the factors that contributed to this outcome and the implications for the Democratic Party. Barara and Freeman discuss the importance of the vice presidential selection in the upcoming election. They explore the potential impact of different candidates and the role of humor in political strategy. Barara introduces Z-Shan B, a musician whose new album he executive produced. They discuss the album's themes, the creative process, and the inspiration behind the music.

Outlines

00:00:00
The Assassination Attempt, Biden's Decision, and Kamala Harris' Campaign

This episode explores the assassination attempt on former President Trump, President Biden's decision not to seek reelection, and Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential campaign, while also discussing the legal issues surrounding the classified documents case against Donald Trump and the impact of technology on democracy.

00:01:04
SCOTUS Reforms and the Classified Documents Case

Preet Barara discusses the feasibility of SCOTUS reforms proposed by President Biden and the legal issues surrounding the classified documents case against Donald Trump, including Judge Cannon's dismissal of the indictment and the potential for the 11th Circuit to reverse her decision.

00:07:21
Music Production and Song Recommendations

Preet Barara responds to a listener question about the legal implications of his song recommendations on Twitter, discussing his role as executive producer for Z-Shan B's new album and his personal enjoyment of sharing music with his followers.

00:08:58
The Craziest 33 Days in Modern American Political History

Preet Barara and Joanne Freeman discuss the recent political events, including the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, President Biden's decision not to seek reelection, and Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential campaign. They discuss the impact of technology on democracy and the role of political rhetoric in shaping the current political climate.

00:16:00
The Assassination Attempt and Political Violence

Joanne Freeman analyzes the assassination attempt on Donald Trump in the context of American history, discussing the role of rhetoric and the normalization of violence in politics. She explores the potential consequences of a successful assassination attempt and the reactions of political adversaries.

00:26:00
The Media's Short Attention Span and Conspiracy Theories

Preet Barara and Joanne Freeman discuss the media's short attention span and the rapid shift in focus from the assassination attempt to other news events. They also examine the prevalence of conspiracy theories in the current political climate and the challenges of discerning truth from falsehood in the digital age.

00:30:13
Comparing Reagan and Trump's Responses to Assassination Attempts

Preet Barara and Joanne Freeman compare Ronald Reagan's and Donald Trump's responses to assassination attempts. They discuss the historical context of each event and the potential impact on their political fortunes.

00:35:32
Biden's Decision to Withdraw from the Race and Historical Analogs

Preet Barara and Joanne Freeman discuss President Biden's decision not to seek reelection, examining historical analogs and the unique circumstances surrounding his decision. They explore the implications of his withdrawal for the Democratic Party and the 2024 election.

00:42:36
Kamala Harris' Presidential Campaign and the Democratic Primary

Preet Barara and Joanne Freeman discuss Kamala Harris' presidential campaign and the criticism she has faced, particularly regarding her laugh. They analyze the gendered nature of this criticism and its implications for women in politics. They also discuss the unexpected turn of events in the Democratic primary, particularly the swift and enthusiastic support for Kamala Harris following President Biden's withdrawal from the race. They analyze the factors that contributed to this outcome and the implications for the Democratic Party.

00:54:13
Preet Barara's Executive Producer Debut with Z-Shan B's New Album

Preet Barara introduces Z-Shan B, a musician whose new album he executive produced. They discuss the album's themes, the creative process, and the inspiration behind the music.

Keywords

SCOTUS Reforms


Proposed changes to the structure and operation of the Supreme Court, including term limits for justices, a code of conduct, and limitations on presidential immunity.

Classified Documents Case


A criminal case against Donald Trump alleging that he mishandled classified documents after leaving office. The case is currently being overseen by Special Counsel Jack Smith.

11th Circuit


The federal court of appeals for the 11th Circuit, which has jurisdiction over cases from Florida, Georgia, and Alabama. The 11th Circuit is expected to hear the appeal of Judge Cannon's dismissal of the classified documents case.

Z-Shan B


A musician whose new album, "Ose Can You See," Preet Barara executive produced. The album features a blend of soul, gospel, and orchestral influences.

Joanne Freeman


A professor of American history at Yale University and a leading expert on the political history of the United States. She is known for her work on political violence and the American Civil War.

Assassination Attempt


The attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump in July 2023. The incident sparked widespread discussion about political violence and the current political climate.

Kamala Harris


The current Vice President of the United States and a potential candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2024. She is the first woman and first person of color to hold the office of Vice President.

Technology and Democracy


The impact of technology, from the telegraph to social media and Zoom, on the conversation between political powerholders and the people, and its role in shaping the current political climate and our understanding of democracy.

Q&A

  • What are the key legal issues surrounding the classified documents case against Donald Trump?

    The case centers on whether Trump mishandled classified documents after leaving office. Judge Cannon's dismissal of the indictment raises questions about the appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith and the application of the appointments and appropriations clauses of the Constitution.

  • How does technology shape the current political climate and the way we understand democracy?

    Technology, from the telegraph to social media and Zoom, has profoundly shaped the conversation between political powerholders and the people. It can both connect and divide, amplify voices, and create new avenues for political engagement and misinformation.

  • What are the historical parallels to President Biden's decision not to seek reelection?

    There are few historical analogs to Biden's decision, with George Washington, Harry Truman, and LBJ being the most commonly cited examples. However, Biden's decision was made in the context of partisan politics, rather than external events like war or scandal.

  • What are the themes of Z-Shan B's new album, "Ose Can You See"?

    The album explores themes of loneliness, resilience, hope, and the search for meaning in a changing world. It features a blend of soul, gospel, and orchestral influences, reflecting Z-Shan B's diverse musical heritage.

  • How does Z-Shan B's music reflect the current political climate and the potential for change?

    Z-Shan B's music, particularly the song "Mountain Top," reflects the anxieties and hopes of the current moment. His music is infused with a sense of optimism and idealism, which he believes can help energize voters and inspire positive change.

Show Notes

Joanne Freeman is a professor of American History at Yale University and a leading expert on U.S. political history. Joanne joins Preet to discuss political violence, historic presidential races, and how our country’s past might inform what happens next in this election season.


For show notes and a transcript of the episode head to: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/joanne-freeman-elections-kamala-harris-biden-trump-violence-democracy/


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Elections, Now & Then (with Joanne Freeman)

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