Ep #021 – Michigan and Wisconsin Breakdown, SI’s top 10 Traditions in CFB, Over/Under Segment and MORE!!
The way the way they ride the bus up there.
You know they come down. Touch the rock and run down that steep hill. It’s really cool. It’s also really cool if you’ve ever heard the story about when north carolina was roll with julius peppers. Apparently i heard the story for someone who worked in north carolina. They went to play clemson. Clemson was supposed to be pretty good that you’re obviously not the clemson they are today but i guess they pulled the bus up went out to touch the rock and julius peppers and dre bly. These people are down there at toronto hill calling him down bring that shit in here boy dray bligh and they rock they touch the rock and ran into that stadium their ass handed to them but no no. It’s a really cool tradition and then number one. I’m not really sure why it’s number one but sooner schooner wagon does that just lagging running around. That’s a wagon that goes around. It goes fast and it’s definitely i mean i saw it. It’s it’s cool but the number one tradition all of college football. I just a wagon yeah. Did the writer go to oklahoma. I don’t know i don’t know he didn’t put anything for texas on there. So maybe right so yeah the <hes> i had an issue with that. I don’t have a top ten. I kind of gave my opinion on some of the great traditions in college football but that that list is trash rash if you if you have a subscription s i i would cancel it asks for your money back. Send him an email do something because that is outrageous i should how did they mountain not get up there literally therapy not one person listening knows what you’re talking about nine eight out. There was one on arizona state fan like hey hey said emailed mountain right by the <hes> so so it’s it’s embarrassing embarrassing list how to talk about it but it’s a cool topic. If they didn’t let an intern right it would have been really good. Let pizza or someone like that right it if he’s still there s i let somebody that’s a good writer because that is terrible so shame on you sl i. Let’s let’s let’s dive back into the college. Football preview stuff and i want to skip week three. Maybe come back to it but weak force to loaded. We’re going to dive into michigan wisconsin right now because that’s probably one of three of the games of the week that we have and for us to like detail u._c._l._a. Oklahoma ah over georgia notre dame or u._s._a. Utah that’s just that’s not that’s not even fair so we’re going to dive into michigan wisconsin right right now and then and then in the next two episodes dive into the other week four matchups and maybe circle back to week three or just detail when it is week three but let’s let’s dive into this mishcon michigan at wisconsin mitch mcconnell mitch johnson. Let’s dive into the michigan game the michigan wisconsin game. That’s a big game early huge game game in the ben. Here’s what’s really cool. We were just discussing it but going into what what i want to talk about. Next episode in length is the politics scheduling these conferences do and both teams so it’s week four mind you both teams have a bye bye in week three in week three so both teams are coming off a bye into this matchup. So the the big ten already dubbed this matchup of the conference early. The conference decided decided that and i don’t disagree with them but i certainly don’t know that they need to give them a by central. Michigan was a vaunting game avant a game that they have to recover from so let’s dive into it all right so when michigan’s on offense wisconsin defense obviously michigan big big story in ann arbor is the new o._c. Josh gad savior save the man that is going to bring the no huddle to ann arbor and who called all the a place at alabama unless you talked to mike oxley or if you talk to nick sabin who who blamed josh gad is for the national teams or clubs but never was never mind. That’s just the the details. I it’s been an interesting little back and forth there between those two and again. I don’t know josh gaddis that well. I know mike loxley very well and i do know that mike was <music>. <hes> he had the keys he was running the show. It’s like anything else. Like what are we talking about. Yeah you recommend. It plays your receiver coach. You should recommend it plays. That’d it’d be like me saying. I called all the plays at ohio state. It’s like no you didn’t just recommended some plays because you are the receiver coach like shut the hell up and move on number one number two who i don’t know why you want to take credit for that for that one you you lost a clemson bro like calm down but anyways he looks to revamp the ninth best passing offense the big ten <hes> eightieth in the country.
The total offense barely cracked the top fifty. They were ranked number fifty but they do have seven starters returning and i account his eight out of eleven returning because tariq plaque got hurt last year but he certainly would have been was a starter so they got guys coming back in and they’re going to build this along. Ed warner’s corners offensive line. I mean is reality. I mean he’s a good old line coach so they got four starters returning to our preseason all big ten hopefuls ben edison and caesar ruas and the only question really it’d be a right tackle had a guy who came in late in the year and played a lot at right tackle andrew stupor but <hes> he just got hurt <hes> last week and he’s out for the season hurt his leg so they got a sophomore and jalen mayfield who who supposedly going to be the guy who’s going to get to call all right tackle position you concern but it’s like anything else. You got four four linemen you can you can hide a fifth. We won a national championship twice with average right tackles tackles so it’s not a huge concern for for michigan faithful and what they do have is shape patterson j. patterson soc as coming back looks to have a really a big year and i look for him to have a big year to be honest. I really like his production. I liked the fact that he has legit offense line. I like the fact that he has his top two receivers from last year coming back and nico collins and donovan the people’s jones p._j. And on top of that tariq black we’ll we’ll be healthy the hopefully and then he should have weapons man he should really be able to put up a dynamic year but honestly for michigan the big huge question mark on offense running back. They have a kid true. Wilson who’s the senior leader kind of that that journeymen who who they look to to be the guy chris turner came on late last year so they’re gonna look at him a._m. For some some touches and they have true freshman zack chardonnay who who’s supposed to be the real deal but i think that’s their biggest question is tight end and running back in and we’ll we’ll see how that develops but the core their offense is going to be experienced and very talented ever see core is in in my rankings the second the best in the conference behind ohio state and in shay looks to have the weapons around him so we’ll see what what what he’s able to put together and the big the biggest thing is wisconsin on defense was they were top five ten defense last year and they’re bringing back five defensive starters and they’re building that around on their secondary. Their secondary is gonna be legit. They have three or four starting secondary players returning. They were top twenty five pass defense nationally last year so i’ll tell you this they’re going to be up for the task of defending shape patterson especially with an extra week to prepare for him and josh gad new offense now the cool thing about playing saying someone early especially with a bi week is they won’t have the entire canvas that is michigan offense. They won’t be able all to prepare for some wrinkles. That mission won’t show before that game and so that’ll be that’ll be the caveat that michigan ride <hes> as far as preparation because you when you have a legit veterans secondary. That’s going to come out and prepare. They’ve already been through the ringer. They already know what they’re doing. They’re they’re going to be. They know how to prepare for an offense and so the good thing is michigan. We’ll have to show him the office to prepare for. You know what i mean well yeah. They’re not going to have to against middle tennessee or army no leaks and so that’ll be that’ll be the huge advantage for with for michigan going into the game and also unexperienced secondary is going to be able to adjust so. I i look for that to be a legit matchup now. I’m very concerned about wisconsin front seven they only return to their seven on the front seven which is very concerning and they’re. They’re going to be wisconsin asked. They’re going to have some solid play at linebacker at d. line but it’s going to be a matter of. Can they really stop. What’s i was going to be one of the better off in the big ten of josh gad. This is not a complete clown so if you really look that matchup in its entirety <hes>. I don’t think wisconsin has a chance of slowing down the newly dynamic gaddis offense. I mean he called. All the good plays in alabama for god’s sake none of the bad ones. He called the good ones well. I think the only only matchup that you like is their secondary against the wide receivers so i if they can slow him down if michigan struggles to run the ball. I think yeah i right. I don’t like the match up. Even a mission receivers are ridiculous. Jones renita causes ridiculous in my opinion ep. Jay’s going to be one of the top three receivers in america. Yeah i think for black is average thought. He was average in high school. I thought he was averages a freshman but he’ll come back and he at least provides some some experience and some he he’s not he’s not not a bad player but i mean to think that i know wisconsin’s bringing three or four starters back secondary but those three or four starters couldn’t cover d._j.
Last year and so if they both trained like i’m sure they did if they both developed like. I’m sure they did if they both did what they were supposed to do. They still can’t cover him or nico. So if shape patterson persson can be protected which against the front seven as depleted as wisconsin’s with an offensive line as as experienced as michigan’s. They should be able to do if they can do that. I think michigan is going to run wisconsin out of the stadium when they’re on offense. Is there a what brother lying around that wisconsin. He’s like he’s fourteen years. Give them. A couple of luminary doesn’t matter so that’s how i see that that matchup going on that side of the ball then wisconsin’s on offense boy enter jonathan taylor heisman. I’m hopeful almost twenty two hundred yard back boasting sixteen tug season. That’s yeah they don’t have a quarterback they didn’t they don’t but i mean they’re bringing in one of the best running backs in college in the country and so that there’s going to be awfully a running back can’t do it all but he’s a dynamic player. Johnson johnson never has a good quarterback russell wilson and then the next one year whatever for one year and then they drop off in the next best one is like scott toll zine but but the biggest question mark big question mark is a quarterback and especially after the the whole alex horning book debacle that landed him in tallahassee an from our insiders sources apparently he banged alignments girlfriend <hes> then got beat up in the locker room for it and then transferred to dell as so who will be the new captain wisconsin pass game that finished one hundred nineteenth in america last year by the way home. I think two or three from last so it’s it’s not good big question mark as quarterback obviously willoughby jet cone junior has been in the program. He’s kind of had the inside track. <hes> the most talented guy in the room will be graham merz. Who was the number three ranked pro style quarterback in america coming out of high school but he’s going to be a freshman. I mean that’s that’s a lot to put on a freshman and so i think he’ll be the guy in in madison in the future but will he be that now. I don’t know now they do other top four receivers coming coming back and danny davis a._j. Taylor and the tight end jake ferguson so i think they’re going to have players. I know danny davis dayton kid that that that we looked at he played really well against us. He played he’s played really well it wisconsin so it’ll be interesting to see how they develop and how that chemistry goes does with whoever the quarterback is i’m hearing it’s going to be jack owned but i’m gonna be honest bye-bye week four with a bi week. I think graham mertz should be the guy if if he is what he’s touted to be which i don’t know. I know they’re excited about him. I know everyone was excited about him coming out of high school so we’ll see. I don’t think he’s an elite quarterback but i think he’s better than what they have so you think that will be in and then they’ll just replace them. It depends on how it goes struggle against charlie strong on week one he might don’t get him upset. Predictions watch out for u._s._f. Versus wisconsin one that happens. I would expect a change at the helm um and quarterback but we’ll see we’ll get into that later. As a season starts in wisconsin line is another huge question mark i mean they will. We’ll be a wisconsin s line for sure big big big line that <hes> and they’ll they’ll use a lotta tight ends. They’ll be really they’ll do well impasse bro. They’ll they’ll world great people in the run game. I mean they will be. They’ve never not been really good. Oh line and they returned their center which is huge <hes> <hes> <hes> she is a huge dynamic and football is to return your center that you’re captain. He makes all the calls he i._d.’s the run game he i._d.’s protections with the quarterbacks help so that’s going to be a huge benefit to them. It’ll be it’ll be interesting to see how the rest of the ford developed and how they play <hes> u._s._f. Is going to be a good test. I early for them and then they got their hands full. Though with traditionally stout defence don brown’s what was the best defense in the the big dan last year <hes> now he did lose to stud coaches in greg madison and now washington which is not going to help john brown’s staff and he’s he’s. He’s re only returning to of seven on the front two of the front seven and to be honest with you regardless. Of how many people would you turn on the front seven. You can’t replace guys like devin bush the junior chase win of rashawn gerry and think there’s not going to be some type of drop off. I mean those are three excellent football players. They’re all three guys is that are making waves in the n._f._l. Right now yeah. I mean the those three guys they were dominant players. You had to know where they were you to gain platform. John kerry was dominant as far as talent now he was lazy.
Take plays off and so you you didn’t feel his impact as much whereas chased win of it was the opposite he was like the highest motor player ever and he wasn’t half as talented schon gary but he was he was you felt him a lot. More as far as impact in the game and devin bush was just that that swagger leader in the middle of the defense that they don’t have any more and so it’ll be interesting to see how that front seven develops. I know don brown will have a great plan for them. In this game is going to be the test. A lot like ohio state’s gonna have that test against nebraska whether it’s week five or whatever it is this this is gonna be that test for michigan on the road at wisconsin and the one thing they have have on defense coming back his their secondary. They have a solid corner in livered hill solid safety josh medalists and you’re talking about the number to pass defense in america bringing back those two four players and so i i don’t i don’t see wisconsin being able to do much against michigan’s defense. I really don’t i know that jonathan taylor is going to run. The ball wisconsin’s off the line and tight ends are going to be able to block. I mean that’s what they’ve been known for for five million years and so they’re going to be able to move the ball. They’re gonna be able to run the ball but i don’t know how well they’re going to be able to pass the ball against that secondary especially with tom brown and what he’s been known to do in passing scenarios like third-down down red zone things like that. It’s going to be dynamic plan and wish. I think wisconsin’s gonna struggle with it and especially coming off of last year how it went. I i think this year. It’s going to be another game like that. Even though it is in camp randall you have any prediction so prediction <hes> coming off a bye week for both teams in camp randall. I’m gonna be out of setting michigan makes a statement win. I think they they come out of there with a big win like forty to fourteen forty two forty one forty one now. I’m gonna call forty forty two fourteen. I th i think they come out of there with a big win and and and i really both sides of the ball they have they have the advantage right now and <hes> obviously there’s a lot of question remarks that are being answered currently in fall camp for both teams but i think that’s that’s going to be a a statement win for michigan to kinda ride into the meat of the this season i agree. I have went in twenty eight to ten little closer. I’m going the opposite route here with a major peop- for the wisconsin faithful here and wisconsin wins twenty four twenty three. Oh wow regulation or overtime. I regulation. I wanna make sure we’re keeping track of these predictions. Prediction almost say jonathan taylor goes for two hundred hundred. He only got one hundred last year and it’s going to do better this year. He’s worked tarred this off season. He’s also he’s not facing the front seventy face last year. They’re going to hand to them. Eight thousand times also yeah two hundred probably average four yards a carry but yeah for sure all right so that’s our kind of our our dive into week three kind of our college football preview like i said we’re only going to dive into the first four weeks ish because after or that it’s it’s a moot point. We’ll dive into those once. Those teams are developing and we can see him once we can see him on t._v. The last thing i want to do before we close does this out as a new segment. I wanna run. It’s called over under and it’s this is going to be not just like over under gambling segment but this is over under in general just gimme your predictions over under and again these are tracked so over under i one buckeyes we’ll j._k. Dobbins go over fifteen hundred yards rushing and he had fourteen hundred as a freshman when mike weber was kind of her kinda didn’t play that much and hasn’t hasn’t come close to that since but will he now with the departure of mike weber. Will he eclipse fifteen hundred yards rushing this season. I’m gonna say over. I’m going over as well. I think with with the added run game with the quarterback. I think he’ll get more opportunities to breakage longer runs. I’m gonna go under under. I’m saying he’s back to freshman form. I think uh-huh jacob dobbins is a really good player. He’s a really good back. I don’t think he is in ezekiel elliott type of back so i’m i’m putting him at about fourteen hundred. I think it’ll be close but i think he’s going under the next one. The nebraska cornhuskers i’m going over under ten wins this year. Oh boy he’s gonna have to look at their schedule on on over under ten wins. I mean they obviously didn’t have the year last year that you would have. I’ll say under your taking the scott frost affect here. You’re gonna say under what they would like to last year. They started owen six. I’ll go. I’ll go over over so it’s tough because i think they’re going to win ten nine and a half so we can win some yeah you’re right. I should have said it at nine and a half so we said at ten so you’re you’re going to get. We’re going under and over yeah. I’ll take the under all day. I’m saying on the full season though ballgame ballooning ballgames okay.
I’m going over then. I’m just looking at their schedule. Who are they going to lose to okay ohio state at home. That’s that’s not that’s up in the air and then who else at purdue is they could question do they could. What are you gonna wisconsin they could they could lose wisconsin outside of that’s that’s too at minnesota north lyell northwestern at home. I was nervous. They could lose any of them but i’m i’m. I’m i think ten and two. I think they sneak one out. I think scott frost really makes splash goes a eleven in too ambitious goal victory with a veteran eleven eleven. I’m going over. Here’s my favorite one. The clemson tigers this fall right now are slated to play to count them to ranked opponents this year so far yeah texas am ranked number twelve in the country in syracuse ranked twenty two preseason will they play over or under two ranked opponents when the ball is kicked off is their opponent ranked more than twice regular season only right regularly of course in the pro season. They will regular season outside of the a._c._c. Championship outside of bowl games play in the playoff. You’re gonna add three are- at the end of the year. I’m talking about regular season will their schedule having more or less than two ranked opponents see. You need to start at half in here because i i i. I think he’s gonna play too. Well that sucks to be you. I’m gonna go over. I’ll say over. I’m going under who knows south carolina might. I think they’re gonna play one in the s._e._c. texas a. and m. that’s it. I think syracuse loses a lewis as an early game early game. What a florida state’s undefeated undefeated when they play them. That’s why you play the game. What if your aunt had a dick. She’d be your own cocoa as good as a good good good what jeff so overrun or two ranked opponents for clemson. Were you to went over. I’m going under. I think it’s it’ll be one at most two but i think it’ll be one ams only one. I think everyone else is at the only other one that i could see getting ranked boston college in florida state. Maybe if they just have a fluke season but our number four. This is my favorite one total number of appearances on t._v. That you can visually see of tom. Herman shirts parts on the game day crowd over under upsetting it at three so you’re talking to kirk herbstreit show on game day on t._v. It’s called college game. Yes show on season. The whole sees all season and if two people yeah i mean if they go to the texas l._s._u. Game at three people were wearing them. That’s three what do you got over three. Go over. I’m going to record game day to do so. I know i’ll go. I’ll go over as well yeah. I’m going over for sure. I think i think that if when game day comes to a texas game especially on the road. There’s going to be at least three in the crowd so i’m going over for sure i last one is my favorite one. How how many times during ohio state’s first game and i’m talking about a pre show pre-game show during the game announcing and post game show will the announcers just can’t help themselves in reference zac smith situation or the urban meyer situation. How many times i’m saying three is over underwood. He got just for the first game just first game because i don’t know you’d think it’s already i down but it should die down by midseason. They’ll stop talking about that but it will be so relevant. Ah for no reason initially so what do you got over three. Hopefully under but i’ll go. Oh no she had hopefully i’m going over because it’s what they they play f._a._u. Or whatever not going to be a lot to talk about they’ll bring up every myers ex-miss situation at least three times but you’re also going to have absolute clown shows announcing it probably so oh i’m with you. I’m with you well. That’s a good start to the over-under will keep that up next week i well. That’s that’s that’s gonna be enough for today. We appreciate you tune born in hope again. You enjoy the show in the direction. It’s heading make sure you check out our store on our website menace to society podcast dot com. They’re they’re still some mm issues with the cart and the checkout process still working on it certainly not techies over here so hopefully we’ll have that fixed this week when we launched our new site an store but if not you can you can pick the shirt you want pick the hat you want click the paypal icon and check out and purchase that now and it’ll be out in the mail the next day so our apologize for our apologies for that and like i said we have the men’s society apparel on their <hes>. We have our trash talk line launching. Hopefully tomorrow more with tom herman shirt getting some mcmurphy shirts some zone six shirts really wanna start growing the the storefront. ’cause we have good ideas and some stuff that i think people really like <hes>.
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