[Joker]: Hello all you mad lads and mad lasses out there. This is Joker. I just wanted to go ahead and throw out a Disclaimer for parts one and two of episode 13 as I'm a dumbass and did not take consideration that there would be Echo from a USB Mike XLR Mike combo for this episode. You get to hear Jordan very well, but myself is very echo-y. And then on top of that, again, dumbass move on my part, I turn down my mic output so I'll be low and echo-y for the majority of these two parts. Please bear with us. It won't last. The next episode 14 will be so much better, but yeah, thanks again and we will see you on the other side. Peace.

[Joker]: So welcome to the only podcast where we are crazier than the life you deal with daily. This is the Mad House. I'm Joker. And then today, of course, I am joined by Unreal aka Jordan who is a part of the Madhouse community.

[Unrealstyle]: Hello everyone,

[Joker]: and lives local to me. So today, oh God, we are going to be talking about X-Men Origin, Wolverine. So the first standalone Wolverine movie.

[Unrealstyle]: They did it justice.

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[Joker]:though there was very one comedic portion in there where I was highly confused at why they made it so comic. But we'll get to that part later.

[Unrealstyle]: Okay.

[Joker]: When we get to that particular part of the movie. So doing it justice, what do you mean by that? Is there a particular part that you feel or is it just in general?

[Unrealstyle]: In general, really. Because sometimes when they do origin stories, they do things that just kind of ruin it. They added some things, they changed some things, but I feel like they did the movie justice.

[Joker]: Okay. Now where we start out with I found out via the Wiki page for the movie is that we start out in the 1800s originally. We all knew that as far as Wolverine's original years on Earth.

[Unrealstyle]: Right.

[Joker]: Those that listen to the movies, watch the cartoons and partaked in the original comic books that talked about the Weapon X in the 90s, I believe it was when the Weapon X series of comics came out. Or they talked about him being born in the 1800s.

[Unrealstyle]: Right.

[Joker]: So we got a little bit of clarification via the Wiki page, which we don't necessarily know how accurate it is unless we look at the script itself. But they're saying around 1845. So this would have been well after the Revolutionary War and just prior to the Civil War.

[Unrealstyle]: Yes.

[Joker]: Because it was 1880s, I think was a Civil War.

[Unrealstyle]: I believe so.

[Joker]: God, I think I'd remember these things by now. Let's see,

[Unrealstyle]: They went through so many wars, it's kind of hard to keep up.

[Joker]: 1865 was the end date.

[Unrealstyle]: Okay.

[Joker]: Yeah, that's about right. About 20 years. So yeah, he would have been fairly young back then.

[Unrealstyle]: Yeah, he would have been 20s early…

[Joker]: because he was in 1845, if that was the time frame that they're giving us. Because Logan or James, as they called him

[Unrealstyle]: Yeah

[Joker]: James Logan was what looked like about eight, nine ish because Victor looked

[Unrealstyle]: Yeah

[Joker]: about twelve to 14.

[Unrealstyle]: Yeah,

[Joker]: about right

[Unrealstyle]: Yeah

[Joker]: as far as the depictions. So, yeah, he would have been in his 20s or so during the Civil War.

[Unrealstyle]: Yeah.

[Joker]: All right, so during this first scene, of course, Logan or James is sick in bed as a child. And this, of course, is when his powers first show face.

[Unrealstyle]: Yes.

[Joker]: Now, we find out that his father, Logan. We find out that his father… Is there still an Echo? No, there shouldn't be now. Yeah, we're definitely going to have to pay the money to get dynamic mics because this is trash. Here, let me turn mine down. Didn't sound that echoey when we did the other ones, but whatever. Yeah, it'll happen. You just got to remember to tap it on.

[Unrealstyle]: Yeah.

[Joker]: Oh, God. Anyhow, what was I saying? Oh, yeah. So we find out that James or Wolverine's dad isn't really his dad or his mother slept with one of the groundskeepers, which was Thomas Logan, apparently. Oh, Howlett. Is his real name James Howellt?

[Unrealstyle]: Yes.

[Joker]: This is so stupid.

[Unrealstyle]: I'm having a blast right now.

[Joker]: I can imagine. But the grounds keeper, who was Thomas Logan, which is also Victor's father, which they knew about.

[Unrealstyle]: Well, I think the mother did, but I'm not entirely sure that the father did because he kind of died before anything could be really identified.

[Joker]: Okay, this is going to be horrible. So bad. All right, so when we get through that, of course, the grounds keeper kills Mr. Howellt and announces himself as the boy's father. So then I'm guessing after that, when Logan and Victor run away, that's when he picks up the Logan name,

[Unrealstyle]: probably because it's never really been explained where he got the name. We kind of just figured that it was a name that he just chose after he left the group.

[Joker]: Yeah. Okay. So from there they run off and then they go through all the wars. Civil War, World War I, World War II. I was thinking the Korean War, but according to the Wiki, they didn't do the Korean War. They just skipped straight to Vietnam War in 1970s. So they completely lapsed the Korean War, which happened in the 60s. And that's where they meet Striker for the first time, in like 1970-75 something like six years later.

[Unrealstyle]: 1973

[Joker]: Okay, I see it. So somewhere in early 1970s, late 1970s, he's already a part of Strikers team and they're heading to they've already done their thing during the 70s as a team of Strikers. So it's Wade Wilson, which is, oddly enough, in human form in the Seventies, as an adult, presumably in his mid to early 20s. So that would put him born in 1950, which already is a conflict with the current Deadpool movies. Now with that. So we've got Wade Wilson, John Wraith, who was also known as Kestrel, who was at one point lored to be Nightcrawler's father, which, of course, we find out in Apocalypse. That's not the case.

[Unrealstyle]: Yeah, because Nightcrawler's father is supposed to be a Azazel.

[Joker]: Yes, and that's confirmed in the next movie. In the Apocalypse movie. But it was at one point, Lord. Hence why John Wraith or Kestrel has the same teleportation style powers minus the cloud of smoke. But Sabertooth or Victor Blob, Christopher Bradley, who was by his mute name known as either the Bolt and Maverick. Yeah, that's it. And what was the sharpshooter's name?

[Unrealstyle]: Zero.

[Joker]: Zero. That's right. All right, so we've got those going