In this, my first episode, I am talking with Sandy Brown.

Sandy is the author of 7 Cicerone pilgrimage guide books and is one of the most respected experts on pilgrimage in Europe and America. He has walked 20,000 kms of pilgrim paths since 2008 and is a major and much loved influencer in the pilgrim world. It is a real pleasure to chat with him and learn from his insight and knowledge. Whether you know Sandy or not, you will love this episode and find it of truly great value.

Search Caminoist on the web to find more about Sandy.

Owing to a minor motor neurone condition, Sandy uses an ai programme called ElevenLabs to speak.

You can hear him at the very end though, where he has a few words to say about this.