DiscoverRumble with Michael MooreEp. 98: "Ladies and Gentlemen, This Is The Plague" (feat. Laurie Garrett)
Ep. 98: "Ladies and Gentlemen, This Is The Plague" (feat. Laurie Garrett)

Ep. 98: "Ladies and Gentlemen, This Is The Plague" (feat. Laurie Garrett)

Update: 2020-07-0617


Since the beginning of the Coronavirus pandemic, Pulitzer Prize-winning science writer Laurie Garrett has been the most blunt and forthright analyst warning the public about how destructive the virus will be. She has been sounding the alarm on our lack of preparedness for a pandemic since her 1994 book, "The Coming Plague." Her warnings were not heeded. The United States has now bungled it's response and we are hitting record-high numbers of new cases. She joins Michael for a discussion about all aspects of the pandemic, including the disastrous decisions by President Trump and President Xi, what myths have persisted about the virus, whether schools might open in the fall, why the economic impact has not yet reached bottom, and the social and psychological effects we will be dealing with for many years. We need to hear the unvarnished truth if we are going to find our way out of this. Garrett says we should call this what it is, a plague, and she offers a way out should anyone want to listen.


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Laurie's books:

"The Coming Plague"

"Betrayal of Trust: The Collapse of Global Public Health"



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Comments (6)

Ivan Curacao

excellent interview Michael! thank you for always valuing the truth no matter how bad. please check in with Laurie again. and I love the Guess Who extro music. Here in Canada I think of American Woman now as a dirge.... wishing you and your country, and the whole world all the best.

Jul 9th

Jeanne LaTerza Jordan

Best podcast all week. Laurie Garrett's command of the current covid situation is only surpassed by her insight into America's future, economically & socially. Loved her suggestion at the end because it made me feel hopeful in spite of our dire reality. Thank you Michael Moore for giving Laurie so much time to share her understanding, knowledge and feelings with us.

Jul 7th

Sean Crutchfield

PHENOMENAL discussion. Thank you both so much!

Jul 7th

Margo Baldrige

Thank you, Michael for having Laurie on this podcast. I'm 82 years old and I believe we will be dealing with the virus for the rest of my lifetime. I stay at home and only go out with mask to get groceries every 10 days. I trust I won't die of Covid 19 but I live in Tucson AZ and our state is doing terribly dealing with this due to our Republican Governor Ducey following the orange one in the WH. Now AZ is trying to play catch up in bending the curve.

Jul 7th


thank you for this great discussion!! stay safe and all the best wishes from germany!! Manuela

Jul 6th

Tatyana Noyb

Remarkable! Thanks so much.

Jul 6th
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Ep. 98: "Ladies and Gentlemen, This Is The Plague" (feat. Laurie Garrett)

Ep. 98: "Ladies and Gentlemen, This Is The Plague" (feat. Laurie Garrett)

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