Rugby podcasters Brett McKay and Harry Jones are joined on The 8-9 Combo by Radio New Zealand sportswriter, author, and new South African travel ambassador Jamie Wall fresh from his tour with the All Blacks for a complete debrief of his two weeks in the Republic.

But where a rugby podcast and YouTube video would typically centre around the on-field action, this time around Jamie’s first ever experience in South Africa, and what he learned and consumed about the local cultures, and the vast differences between Johannesburg and Cape Town, and how it has influenced his take on the All Blacks-Springboks rivalry, which he detailed a few years ago in his wonderful book The Hundred Years War.

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Find Brett and Harry’s written work on RugbyPass and The Roar:

Brett: https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/contributor/brett-mckay/

Harry: https://www.theroar.com.au/author/haribaldi/

Music from Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/track/oakvale-of-albion/extreme

Voiceovers by Chookman + Sean Maloney + Amelia

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