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Episode 1: The Fight for a True Democracy

Episode 1: The Fight for a True Democracy

Update: 2019-08-2398


America was founded on the ideal of democracy. Black people fought to make it one.

“1619” is a New York Times audio series hosted by Nikole Hannah-Jones. You can find more information about it at

This episode includes scenes of graphic violence.

Comments (47)

lisa bradford

I am both glad to be able to view history from a less biased perspective and disgusted with the view it provides. I was raised in a home where my mother, proudly and often, told the story of seeing Dr. Martin Luther Kings "I Have A Dream" speech live and in person in Washington D.C. Being raised in a home where equal civil rights was the culture being presented to me, I am sad to say, I regarded the civil rights movement as a period of history that has been "made right and accepted by most". With that in mind, I am consistently horrified when I realized that the Civil Rights Movement is still very much necessary in 2019, that it's not the country's culture and it's not mostly accepted. I'm horrified to realize that racial injustices most certainly occur today, in this the most civilized of worlds. This is a perspective that needs to be told to balance the , excuse the phrase, "white-washed" history that is being perpetuated even in the most loving households. We can all admit that history is in the eyes of the beholder, and all points of view must be assimilated to produce a fair assessment of history. thank you for this podcast. necessary

Aug 28th
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John Moore

I like that these stories are being told, but I would caution the show creators to be precise and accurate, and provide proper context, because this episode was inaccurate in several instances, and frankly very biased. 23:40 This speech was given in 1854 entitled "Lincoln's Speech at Peoria", and I'm sure there is an inadvertent conflation of two or more events as I'm not able to find several quotes she gave, like the quote containing the phrase "troublesome presence". Also, the line about equality is proceeded by this line: "...A universal feeling, whether well or ill-founded, cannot be safely disregarded. We cannot, then, make them equals. It does seem to me that systems of gradual emancipation might be adopted..." Lincoln was speaking about the practicalities of implementing immediate equality, not a disdain for blacks in general. He reasoned that a gradual process would be more widely accepted by the south, who they needed to bring into the fold for any emancipation effort to work. We need acknowledge two things about the founders: They failed in the civic duty to abolish the atrocities of slavery. But, they knew the would be succeeded by more moral men, and did what they could to undermine slavery while swallowing the bitter pill in order to unite against Britain. The very intentional words in the declaration were used over and over to grant us all the rights we deserved. The founders also used various methods to stop the spread of slavery, such as the Northwest Ordinance of 1787. They did what they did, but it wasn't enough and they failed, but they were succeeded by better people. I'm sure we're failing in some ways right now, but we'll be succeeded by better people. I think that's the story of this country we should be telling.

Aug 28th
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Don't forget the Dutch. Both were fairly notorious.

Aug 25th

Mueller Level Confidence

Are future episodes going to cover Islamic kingdoms involved in slavery?

Aug 24th
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Episode 1: The Fight for a True Democracy

Episode 1: The Fight for a True Democracy