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Episode 1557 - Dan St. Germain

Episode 1557 - Dan St. Germain

Update: 2024-07-183
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Mark Marin and Dan Saint Germain continue their conversation, delving deeper into the nature of comedy and its addictive qualities. They reminisce about their early days in comedy and the camaraderie they experienced during open mics. Marin shares his perspective on the fleeting nature of jokes and how he eventually tires of them, emphasizing the importance of constantly building and evolving his material. The conversation then shifts to Marin's experiences with addiction, specifically his dependence on nicotine pouches and his struggles with panic attacks. He recounts a humorous anecdote about asking Sinbad for crack at a comedy festival, highlighting the absurdity of his actions while under the influence. Marin also shares his experiences with writing for television and his decision to prioritize stand-up comedy, despite the financial benefits of writing. He discusses the challenges of finding a balance between his creative pursuits and his personal struggles, emphasizing the importance of embracing his true self and finding comfort in his identity. The conversation concludes with Marin reflecting on his current state of mind, his relationship with his wife, and his hopes for the future, acknowledging the importance of finding peace and purpose in a world that often feels overwhelming.

Outlines

00:00:00
Summertime and Food Indulgences

This Chapter begins with Mark Marin reflecting on the current season, summertime, and how it can disrupt one's food routine. He mentions cookouts, ice cream, and other common indulgences that can lead to challenges with weight management. He then introduces Noom, a weight management app that offers personalized plans to meet individual needs.

00:00:45
Mark Marin's Current State of Mind

This Chapter begins with Mark Marin checking in with his listeners, asking about their well-being and sharing his own current state of mind. He describes feeling okay in the moment, but acknowledges the fleeting nature of his emotions and how they are influenced by dopamine and neural pathways.

00:03:36
Dan Saint Germain: Guest Introduction

This Chapter introduces Dan Saint Germain as Mark Marin's guest for the episode. Marin shares that Saint Germain previously appeared on a live WTF show in 2010 but never did a full episode. He mentions Saint Germain's new special, "Dan Saint Germain Dance Fatty Dance," and their long-standing friendship.

00:04:54
Addiction and Recovery

This Chapter delves into a discussion about addiction and recovery, with Mark Marin and Dan Saint Germain sharing their personal experiences with drugs and alcohol. Marin emphasizes the importance of talking about these issues and how it can inspire others struggling with addiction.

00:06:39
Comedy Specials and Upcoming Shows

This Chapter features Mark Marin promoting his own HBO comedy special, "Bleak to Dark," which is available as a digital download or vinyl EP. He also mentions a recent comedy special he watched by Chad Daniels, titled "Empty Nester," which he recommends to his listeners.

00:07:24
Tour Dates and Canadian Reflections

This Chapter focuses on Mark Marin's upcoming tour dates, encouraging listeners to visit WTFpod.com for details. He also shares his thoughts on Canada, where he's been spending time recently, and acknowledges the mixed feelings he has about the country.

00:11:17
A Fan's Reality Check on Canada

This Chapter recounts a detailed email Mark Marin received from a fan who offered a critical perspective on Canada, highlighting issues like inflation, housing crisis, and political influence from the United States. Marin acknowledges the fan's perspective and expresses gratitude for the reality check.

00:14:11
Nicotine Addiction and a Street Deal

This Chapter focuses on Mark Marin's struggles with nicotine addiction, specifically his dependence on nicotine pouches. He shares a recent experience where he met a fellow comedian who provided him with a supply of pouches, leading to a street deal exchange.

00:18:02
Dan Saint Germain: Early Days and Comedy

This Chapter features a conversation between Mark Marin and Dan Saint Germain, reminiscing about their early days in comedy and a particular weekend where Saint Germain was the headliner and Marin was the opening act. They discuss their shared experiences and the evolution of their careers.

00:58:19
The Addictive Nature of Comedy

This Chapter delves into the addictive nature of comedy, with Mark Marin and Dan Saint Germain discussing their experiences with open mics and the camaraderie they shared with other comedians. Marin shares his perspective on the fleeting nature of jokes and how he eventually tires of them, emphasizing the importance of constantly building and evolving his material.

Keywords

WTF Podcast


A popular podcast hosted by comedian Mark Marin, known for its in-depth interviews with comedians, actors, musicians, and other interesting personalities. The podcast is known for its candid and often controversial conversations, exploring a wide range of topics from addiction and recovery to politics and culture.

Dan Saint Germain


A comedian and writer known for his stand-up comedy, which often incorporates elements of storytelling, observational humor, and personal anecdotes. He has released several comedy specials, including "Dan Saint Germain Dance Fatty Dance," and hosts a podcast called "Working Stiff." He is also known for his work as a writer on television shows like "The Daily Show" and "Late Night with Conan O'Brien."

Nicotine Pouches


A type of smokeless tobacco product that delivers nicotine through a pouch placed in the mouth. They are often marketed as a less harmful alternative to cigarettes, but they still contain nicotine and can be addictive. Popular brands include ZYN and On!.

Addiction


A chronic disease characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use, despite harmful consequences. Addiction can affect individuals physically, mentally, and socially, and it can be difficult to overcome. There are various types of addiction, including alcohol addiction, drug addiction, and behavioral addiction.

Recovery


The process of overcoming addiction or other challenges, such as mental illness or trauma. Recovery is a lifelong journey that requires ongoing support and commitment. It involves addressing the underlying causes of addiction, developing coping mechanisms, and building a healthy lifestyle.

Comedy


A form of entertainment that aims to evoke laughter and amusement. Comedy can take many forms, including stand-up comedy, sketch comedy, sitcoms, and movies. It often relies on humor, wit, satire, and observational humor to entertain audiences.

Authenticity


The quality of being genuine and true to oneself. In the context of comedy, authenticity often refers to the ability to connect with audiences on a personal level by sharing honest and relatable experiences. It is often seen as a key element of successful stand-up comedy.

Mental Health


A state of well-being in which an individual realizes their own abilities, can cope with the normal stresses of life, can work productively, and is able to contribute to their community. Mental health encompasses a wide range of emotional, psychological, and social well-being. It is important to prioritize mental health and seek help when needed.

Social Work


A profession that focuses on helping individuals, families, and communities address social and personal challenges. Social workers provide a range of services, including counseling, case management, advocacy, and community outreach. They work in various settings, such as schools, hospitals, government agencies, and non-profit organizations.

Open Mic


An informal performance event where aspiring comedians, musicians, or other performers can showcase their talents in front of a live audience. Open mics are often held in bars, clubs, or other venues, and they provide a platform for emerging artists to gain experience and feedback.

Q&A

  • What is Mark Marin's current state of mind at the beginning of the episode?

    Mark Marin describes feeling okay in the moment, but acknowledges the fleeting nature of his emotions and how they are influenced by dopamine and neural pathways.

  • What is the name of Dan Saint Germain's new comedy special?

    Dan Saint Germain's new comedy special is called "Dan Saint Germain Dance Fatty Dance."

  • What is the name of the weight management app that Mark Marin mentions?

    The weight management app that Mark Marin mentions is called Noom.

  • What is the name of the comedy special that Mark Marin recommends to his listeners?

    Mark Marin recommends a comedy special by Chad Daniels called "Empty Nester."

  • What is the name of the HBO comedy special that Mark Marin released?

    Mark Marin's HBO comedy special is called "Bleak to Dark."

  • What is the name of the podcast that Dan Saint Germain hosts?

    Dan Saint Germain hosts a podcast called "Working Stiff."

  • What is the name of the show that Mark Marin is working on with Dan Soder?

    Mark Marin is working on a show with Dan Soder for Peacock.

  • What is the name of the podcast that Mark Marin is considering starting with Sean Donnelly?

    Mark Marin is considering starting a new podcast with Sean Donnelly.

  • What is the name of the play that Mark Marin's father wrote?

    Mark Marin's father wrote a play called "Freud's Last Session."

  • What is the name of the movie that Mark Marin's father wrote?

    Mark Marin's father wrote a movie called "Duma."

Show Notes

It’s been a long time since Dan St. Germain had his first big gig as an opener with Marc in Sacramento. As the years have gone by, Dan took a few breaks from standup, worked as a writer on several TV series, dealt with the heartbreak of a declining parent, and struggled with sobriety. Dan tells Marc how he managed to pull things together, get clean and self-release his latest comedy special.

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Episode 1557 - Dan St. Germain

Episode 1557 - Dan St. Germain