DiscoverThe Whole Marketer podcastEpisode 156 – Resilience with guest Drew Povey: How to build your resilience with tips and tools for leaders
Episode 156 – Resilience with guest Drew Povey: How to build your resilience with tips and tools for leaders

Episode 156 – Resilience with guest Drew Povey: How to build your resilience with tips and tools for leaders

Update: 2025-10-20
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Episode #156. This episode of personal understanding is a skill for marketers in our ever-changing, challenging yet rewarding profession. 

We're discussing resilience - not to be confused with endurance. We believe building resilience is about individuals feeling empowered to proactively put in place what they need to ensure that they have the energy and wellbeing levels to deal with day-to-day life and setbacks when they inevitably occur. 

Abby's guest expert on this topic is Drew Povey, author, leadership coach and mentor with over 25 years professional experience in multi-sector, executive level leadership across a wide range of sectors including elite sport, corporate, nonprofit and government settings. Drew's recently published book 'When the Clouds Come: Dealing with Difficulties, Facing Your Fears, and Overcoming Obstacles' includes his models and tools to support leaders with resilience. 

In this episode, Drew shares his definition of resilience, building resilience like a muscle and practical models from his book, including the "Five H's" for effective leadership in tough times and BEST LIFE for well-being.  

Plus Drew's advice for marketers of tomorrow to build their tolerance to change. 

 

00:00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Resilience 

00:01:11 Defining Resilience vs. Endurance  

00:03:41 Drew Povey's Perspective on Resilience  

00:07:30 Resilience and Well-being  

00:12:06 Drew Povey's Book: When the Clouds Come  

00:15:21 The Cloud Analogy  

00:20:32 "BEST LIFE" Model  

00:23:01 Building Resilience Like a Muscle  

00:28:03 Perspective and Leadership During Change  

00:33:40 The Three P's Model for Difficult Times 

00:38:10 Change as a Process, Not an Event 

00:38:56 The Five H's for Dealing with Difficulty  

00:47:55 The Power of Pause in Leadership  

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Episode 156 – Resilience with guest Drew Povey: How to build your resilience with tips and tools for leaders

Episode 156 – Resilience with guest Drew Povey: How to build your resilience with tips and tools for leaders

Abigail Dixon