"I’m trying to live life by the scientific method. I run several experiments, including drinking 4 liters of water per day, spending 20 minutes on Twitter, waiting until the last second to prepare for this episode, and having my second ever conversation with Maddy Hicks in front of people we don’t know! Maddy and I bond over being internet-based word nerds. Make yourself comfortable and enjoy Uncomfortable!"

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Show Notes
00:00 Ian on The Scientific Method and his song Fine
04:25 Learning How to Cook 
09:00 Pain and feelings are actually good
13:45 Maddy Hicks joins the show
17:30 Ian asks Maddy if she knows what she wants from making music 
21:20 Maddy talks about being honest and specific in her music
26:10 A conversation on embarrassment and writing
32:00 Maddy plays her most recent single Deadline
35:38 Close