In this episode, Rabbi Joe and Pastor Glenn discuss the first few lines of Psalm 13, examining the meaning of the phrase that is repeated four times: "How long...?" Rabbi Joe reflects on the uniqueness of this phrase in the Hebrew Bible and the reason for the repetition, while Glenn offers connections with the theme of uncertain waiting and longing in Israel's history from the exodus to the exile. Toward the end, both meditate on the three connection points of this phrase: to the divine, to the self, and to the Other.