Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to Robert Douglass of Platform.sh about self-hosting collaboration tools, and other current privacy topics.

Show notes:

0:00:54 : Introduction to a couple of tools

0:02:04 : Doc's take on Zoom.

0:05:13 : A lot of what we do online is not especially private.

0:06:33 : Apple and Google and contact tracing.

0:09:00 : Healthcare is a B2B insurance business.

0:11:15 : Health information and advertising.

0:13:04 : Convenience versus privacy.

0:13:26 : SaaS products and convenience, Facebook, Apple. Concerns of the individual versus the concerns of the many.

0:15:46 : The inevitable part where we go dark.

0:16:02 : We're in the weirdest moment in modern civilization.

0:20:36 : Radio, Internet, Television and Trump.

0:22:21 : Bill Gates.

0:23:45 : SaaS collaboration tools and privacy.

0:27:20 : Who can you trust with your data, especially during a pandemic among questionable actors.

0:28:00 : Mattermost

0:30:23 : NextCloud

0:31:07 : Jitsi

0:33:19 : Cost differences.

0:38:31 : ideology and dogmas way easier than real life, right?

0:39:23 : Edward Snowden and Signal.

0:40:35 : Signal vs. What's App.

0:41:20 : Self-hosting and technical skill. Privacy trade-offs.

0:44:17 : Apple watch.

0:45:12 : Pragmatism.

0:46:58 : Zoom and security scrutiny.

0:50:54 : Facebook, privacy, and politics.

0:55:29 : Facebook vs. Google.

0:56:36 : Zoom scrutiny and appeal.

1:02:11 : Conferences, air travel, climate change.

1:08:07 : COVID innovation.

1:11:23 : Stay home, be safe, deploy Mattermost and wash your hands.

Special Guest: Robert Douglass.

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