In this episode Senior Online Editor Teddy Rube and 2L editor Ian Allen interviewed Professor J. Mauricio Gaona, the author of the article The Perceptional Gap: Rethinking ‘The Migrant Threat’ in JLPP’s issue 25.1. Professor Gaona explored the interdisciplinary approach he took in the piece—combining physics, neuroscience, and philosophy—and explained why wealthy nations like the United States treat certain immigrants like threats instead of with compassion. Professor Gaona explained why a reorientation in how our legal system assesses threats and the “other” is critical to creating a more realistic, more efficient, and more compassionate system of migrant support that will benefit migrants themselves and the countries receiving them. Along the way, he spoke powerfully about his career-long work in human rights and how his roots in Colombia have inspired his work.