This week, Paul Lai (of prog-rock lifers Upsilon Acrux) stops by to talk about the do's & don'ts of touring etiquette, being the only Asian-American in a sea of pretentious white dudes, and sharing the stage with Magma. Along the way he & Jesse discuss a time in Wisconsin when the two of them really didn't like each other, as well as what modern-day guitarists do not need to exist. It's a deep dive into the mind of a musician whose focus has never wavered, even during the most fuckable of gigs, and a must listen for those of you into polyrhythms. Featuring the music of Upsilon AcruxEdited by Jesse KrakowOriginal Music by Jesse Krakow