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Eva Marie On Getting Booed, Wardrobe Malfunction, Total Divas, WWE Return

Eva Marie On Getting Booed, Wardrobe Malfunction, Total Divas, WWE Return

Update: 2026-02-19
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This podcast features a candid conversation with a former WWE wrestler, detailing her journey from addiction and recovery to a successful career in professional wrestling and beyond. The guest shares her experiences with the WWE Diva Search, the challenges of sobriety while in the public eye, and the evolution of women's wrestling within the company. She discusses pivotal moments like her debut, the impact of reality television on her personal life, and the development of her wrestling persona, particularly her effectiveness as a heel. The conversation also touches upon locker room dynamics, handling criticism, memorable WWE segments, and the demanding nature of the wrestling lifestyle. Ultimately, the guest expresses profound gratitude for her sobriety, her family, and her life's purpose, emphasizing resilience and self-acceptance.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction and Early Career Path

The podcast begins with the host welcoming the guest, who discusses her initial reluctance to appear on podcasts and how a mutual connection facilitated this interview. The guest also touches upon her early life and the transition from soccer to wrestling.

00:01:15
Sobriety, Recovery, and Entrepreneurship

The guest highlights the "Hopeaholics" podcast as a turning point, inspiring her to open NEM Recovery Centers and actively work to destigmatize addiction. She emphasizes that her current life is impossible without sobriety.

00:04:49
WWE Journey: From Diva Search to Main Roster Challenges

The guest recounts her WWE journey, starting with the Diva Search and the difficulties of being new to wrestling immediately after treatment. She details the demanding audition process and the rapid life changes that followed her signing.

00:10:13
Life After Signing with WWE and "Total Divas" Debut

The guest describes the whirlwind experience after signing with WWE, including a tryout and developmental contract. She discusses the unexpected path of appearing on "Total Divas" before having a formal wrestling match.

00:16:32
Early Wrestling Experiences and the "Give Divas a Chance" Era

The guest reflects on her initial wrestling matches and the limited opportunities women faced in WWE during the "Give Divas a Chance" era, characterized by short matches and storylines.

00:19:14
Developing Skills, Confidence, and Locker Room Dynamics

The guest discusses the time it took to gain confidence in the ring, including returning to NXT for training. She highlights the challenges of learning publicly and addresses the real animosity within the WWE locker room, especially towards newcomers on "Total Divas."

00:28:30
Handling Criticism, Memorable Segments, and WWE Lifestyle Demands

The guest discusses dealing with criticism, such as "you can't wrestle" chants, and credits family support. She recounts the infamous Jerry Lawler slap incident and the grueling WWE lifestyle, including constant travel and demanding schedules.

00:38:15
Evolution of Women's Wrestling and Transition to Acting

The guest reflects on the significant changes in women's wrestling in WWE and discusses her departure to pursue acting opportunities, noting the perception of WWE as a stepping stone to Hollywood.

00:47:38
Post-Wrestling Identity, Return to WWE, and Heel Persona

The guest describes the difficulty of finding identity after wrestling, the pressure to change for Hollywood, and her 2021 return to WWE driven by her love for the business. She explores the concept of "heat" versus "go away" heat and embraces her heel character.

00:55:13
Second Release, Current Fitness, and Wrestling Exclusively for WWE

The guest reflects on her second release from WWE as a blessing, expresses satisfaction with her 2021 heel run, and notes she is in better shape now. She confirms she has only wrestled for WWE due to its unmatched production level.

00:59:46
"Total Divas" Impact, Scripted vs. Real Moments, and Fanbase Growth

The guest discusses the challenges of exposing her private life on "Total Divas," clarifies the balance of scripted and real moments on the show, and acknowledges the significant fanbase the show brought to WWE.

01:04:49
Proudest WWE Moments and Embracing the Heel Persona

The guest identifies her NXT run with Bayley and Nia Jax as a favorite storyline and expresses pride in her 2021 heel character. She firmly believes she is better suited as a heel due to audience reactions.

01:08:48
Rock Bottom, Sobriety Journey, and Celebrating Milestones

The guest shares details about her rock bottom moments and the journey to sobriety, emphasizing the importance of her parents and a 12-step program. She reflects on celebrating sobriety anniversaries and publicly embracing her struggles.

01:10:40
Navigating Sobriety, Gratitude, and Life Purpose

The guest discusses the surprising ease of navigating sobriety while filming "Total Divas" and expresses immense gratitude for her journey, highlighting family, health, and her relationship with God as key pillars for living a life of purpose.

01:14:12
Sports Commentary and Show Introduction

This segment features a lively sports commentary with a focus on a "spitfire" personality and a promise of provocative content, emphasizing the host's commitment to delivering it regardless of listener preference.

Keywords

NEM Recovery Centers


A treatment facility founded by the podcast guest, aiming to help individuals overcome addiction and break the stigma associated with substance abuse.

Total Divas


A reality television series documenting the personal and professional lives of female WWE wrestlers, offering a glimpse into their challenges and relationships.

Sobriety


The state of abstaining from alcohol and drugs, emphasized by the guest as crucial for personal and professional success and overcoming past struggles.

WWE Diva Search


A WWE competition to find new female talent, serving as a significant opportunity for aspiring wrestlers to gain recognition and potentially join the company.

Heel Character


A villainous or antagonistic character in professional wrestling designed to elicit negative reactions from the audience, enhancing drama and storylines.

Give Divas a Chance Era


A period in WWE history marked by fan advocacy for increased opportunities and better treatment for female wrestlers, leading to longer matches and more substantial storylines.

Wardrobe Malfunction


A specific, memorable segment during a live WWE event that gained significant online attention, executed to enhance a heel character's persona.

NXT


WWE's developmental territory, serving as a training ground for aspiring wrestlers to hone their skills and prepare for the main roster.

Heel Heat


The negative audience reaction towards a heel character in wrestling, crucial for storytelling and signifying the character's effectiveness in provoking a strong emotional response.

Spitfire of Sports Smack


Refers to an individual with a fiery, aggressive, and outspoken style in sports commentary or debate, known for sharp and critical opinions.

Q&A

  • How did appearing on the "Hopeaholics" podcast change your life?

    Appearing on the "Hopeaholics" podcast in July 2023 was a pivotal moment, inspiring me to open my own treatment facility, NEM Recovery Centers, and dedicate myself to breaking the stigma of addiction.

  • What was the significance of publicly sharing your sobriety on "Total Divas"?

    Going public with my sobriety on "Total Divas" was about owning my story and narrative, empowering me by taking control of my own story before others could define it for me.

  • How did you transition from a soccer player to a WWE wrestler?

    After my soccer career ended, I struggled with addiction. WWE became a monumental opportunity that allowed me to channel my athletic drive and physicality, especially after getting sober and auditioning for the Diva search.

  • What were the biggest challenges you faced when starting in WWE?

    Being fresh out of treatment and new to wrestling presented significant challenges, including learning the craft quickly, dealing with skepticism, and performing on a global stage while solidifying my recovery.

  • How did the "Give Divas a Chance" era impact women's wrestling?

    The "Give Divas a Chance" era was a crucial turning point, highlighting the demand for better opportunities for female wrestlers and leading to increased match times and more substantial storylines.

  • What is the story behind your iconic red hair?

    The red hair was a spontaneous decision made before my WWE debut as a gamble to stand out, and it became my best business decision, helping me create a memorable persona and feel confident.

  • How did you handle the criticism and negative chants from fans, like "you can't wrestle"?

    With the support of my family and mentors, I learned to see the value in any audience engagement, even negative, as a sign of effectiveness as a heel.

  • What was the "wardrobe malfunction" segment and why did it get so many views?

    The wardrobe malfunction was a planned segment on live TV where my top appeared to come undone, executed to make my heel character look even more ridiculous and desperate, attracting views due to its controversial nature.

  • Why did you return to WWE in 2021?

    I returned to WWE in 2021 because I love the business and owe so much to the company, embracing the opportunity to fully embody my heel character.

  • What is the difference between "heat" and "go away" heat in wrestling?

    "Heat" is any negative reaction from the crowd towards a heel, while "go away" heat is when the audience wants the performer to leave. Any strong reaction signifies the character's impact.

  • What is the general tone of the sports commentary in this segment?

    The tone is energetic and assertive, with the commentator described as a "spitfire," indicating potentially provocative content delivered with commitment.

  • What is the purpose of mentioning "The Jim Rome Show"?

    It serves as an identification of the program or a related entity, encouraging listeners to follow and listen on their preferred platforms, suggesting it's a show with a dedicated following.

Show Notes

Eva Marie (@natalieevamarie) is a professional wrestler and podcaster best known for her time in WWE. She sits down with Chris Van Vliet in Orange County, CA to discuss how she was fast-tracked to the main roster after signing her contract and the resulting backlash, being on Total Divas and how much of the resentment was real, her signature red hair, why her 2 runs with WWE came to an end, helping others battling with addiction, and more!


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