In this thought-provoking episode, we tackle the Energy Charter Treaty (ECT), a highly litigated investment protection treaty that protects investments in fossil fuels, making it incompatible with the fight against climate change. It explores the reasons why the European Union should #ExitTheECT, which protects private companies' investments against state policies. The first part of the podcast features Andrej Gnezda from Umanotera who examines one case where the ECT pushed Slovenia to weaken fracking rules. Then, join Sibylle Steffan as she sits down with Green MEP Anna Cavazzini, who has been leading the position of the Green Group in the European Parliament on the matter.