Ezra Klein’s Call for ‘Abundance’ in America
Description
In their new book, Abundance, journalists Ezra Klein (The New York Times) and Derek Thompson offer a hopeful vision for what the future of the U.S. can look like.
Ezra returns to the show to discuss how his ‘agenda of abundance’ (6:15 ) is a response to the hollowing out of the middle class (11:26 ) and the dwindling housing market (16:30 ). Then, Klein explains how these regulatory inefficiencies have impacted California’s high-speed rail project (27:56 ), what we can learn from international construction (32:15 ), and why it’s so difficult to build in Blue states (40:00 ).
On the back-half, we discuss the future of AI in the workforce (48:48 ), whether “Abundance” can serve as a prescriptive text for the Democratic Party (1:00:56 ), the hope he aims to engender in readers (1:08:18 ), and our path to meaningful progress in 2025 and beyond (1:14:16 ).
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