In this final episode of Fearlessly Playful (in its current incarnation, stay tuned for some big announcements coming in 2020!), I speak with Julie Trell, head of Telstra’s startup accelerator program, muru-D and the Australian lead of SheEO, a radical new way to invest focussing on women-led ventures.

We talk about Julie’s international journey beginning in the US and ending up in Sydney, including her role as Vice President of All Things Fun, Meaningful & Rewarding at the Salesforce Foundation.

We also talk about the power of improv, games and of course play and how to sneak them into very serious business settings to great results.

And perhaps most inspiring for me is Julie’s insight about the essence of play really being about curiosity, which I’ve now realised since this interview has actually been the driving force in my life… but I’ll save that for a future episode.