DiscoverThe SaaS Podcast: Build, Launch & Scale Your SaaSFinding Product-Market Fit: $200M ARR After 2 Failures | Pendo
Finding Product-Market Fit: $200M ARR After 2 Failures | Pendo

Finding Product-Market Fit: $200M ARR After 2 Failures | Pendo

Update: 2025-09-04
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Todd Olson went from two failed startups to building Pendo, a SaaS platform now generating $200M ARR with 880 employees and nearly $500M raised. In this episode, early-stage B2B SaaS founders will learn how an obsession with product-market fit turned past failures into a unicorn.


Todd reveals why he refused to hire salespeople until he validated the sales motion himself (at $500k ARR), how he used manual outreach instead of inbound to create a new category, and the controversial pricing decision—raising the minimum from $99 to $1,000 overnight—that changed the company's trajectory forever.


In this episode, Todd also explains how building "Auto-Track" gave them an unfair advantage over competitors like Segment, why "Product-Led Growth" failed them early on, and the specific metrics he used to validate fit before scaling.


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🔑 Key Lessons



  • 💡 Finding Product-Market Fit: Why Todd refused to scale until he had undeniable fit, unlike his first two startups.

  • 💰 The 10x Price Hike: How raising the minimum price from $99/mo to $1,000/mo filtered out bad customers and accelerated growth.

  • 🤝 Founder-Led Sales: Why Todd personally sold the first $500k in ARR before hiring a single salesperson.

  • 🏗️ Building the MVP: How Pendo launched with critical features (Auto-Track) that competitors like Segment ignored for years.

  • 🚀 Category Creation: The challenge of selling a product nobody was searching for and why "Product-Led Growth" didn't work early on.


📖 Chapters



  • Introduction & Favorite Quote

  • What is Pendo? Product Overview

  • Company Metrics

  • Todd’s Early Coding Career

  • First Startup Failure & Lessons

  • Missing Product-Market Fit

  • Inspiration for Pendo

  • Building the First Product

  • Landing First Customers

  • First Paying Customer

  • Pricing Evolution

  • Hardest Challenges Scaling

  • Lightning Round


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Finding Product-Market Fit: $200M ARR After 2 Failures | Pendo

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