From the Archives: Micky Dolenz
Digest
This podcast covers the iHeart Podcast Awards and highlights several notable podcasts, including "Thanks Dad" with Ago Woda, "Doubt: The Case of Lucy Letby" hosted by Amanda Knox, and "Love Trapped" with Clayton Eckerd and Stephanie Young, which delves into a Bachelor-related paternity scandal. A significant portion of the podcast features an extensive interview with Mickey Dolenz, discussing his childhood, musical influences, the formation and evolution of The Monkees, their transition from television actors to a real band, their songwriting process, live performances, and his post-Monkees career in directing. The conversation also touches upon the cultural impact of The Monkees, their unique approach to filmmaking with the movie "Head," and their enduring legacy. Additionally, the podcast briefly mentions Andy Warhol's experimental film "Flesh" and his collaboration with Joe D'Allesandro.
Outlines

Introduction and Podcast Highlights
This segment introduces the iHeart Podcast Awards and previews various podcasts, including "Thanks Dad," "Doubt: The Case of Lucy Letby," and "Love Trapped," which explore father-son relationships, a nurse accused of child murder, and a Bachelor-related paternity scandal, respectively.

Mickey Dolenz on The Monkees: From TV to Real Band
Mickey Dolenz shares his journey with The Monkees, from their TV show origins and musical influences to their transition into a self-sufficient band that wrote and performed their own music. He discusses their creative control, songwriting process, and the cultural impact of their music and television show, contrasting it with other contemporary music acts.

The Monkees' Creative Evolution and "Head"
This section delves into The Monkees' move towards greater creative control, including their involvement in writing and performing their music. It also discusses their experimental film "Head," co-written with Jack Nicholson, and its cult status despite initial fan reception, highlighting the shift in filmmaking and cultural expression during that era.

The Monkees' Musical Authenticity and Live Performances
Mickey Dolenz clarifies the recording process and musical authenticity of The Monkees, emphasizing that they sang all their vocals and eventually played their own instruments, particularly on their album "The Birds, The Bees & The Bees & The Monkees." He details their transition to live performances and their growing self-sufficiency as musicians.

Counterculture, Andy Warhol, and Joe D'Allesandro
This segment contrasts The Monkees' impact on softening counterculture with Andy Warhol's more experimental approach to filmmaking, specifically mentioning his film "Flesh" and his collaboration with Joe D'Allesandro.

Mickey Dolenz's Post-Monkees Career and Legacy
Mickey Dolenz reflects on his career after The Monkees, including his transition to directing, his current life, and the enduring popularity of The Monkees' music and live shows, emphasizing the hard work and dedication required to develop his skills as a musician.
Keywords
The Monkees
A fictional American pop-rock band formed for a television sitcom, achieving significant commercial success in the 1960s.
Mickey Dolenz
Actor, singer, and drummer best known as a member of the 1960s band The Monkees.
iHeart Podcast Awards
An annual ceremony celebrating excellence in the podcasting industry.
"Thanks Dad" Podcast
A podcast hosted by Ago Woda featuring conversations about father-son relationships.
"Doubt: The Case of Lucy Letby"
A podcast hosted by Amanda Knox investigating the case of nurse Lucy Letby.
"Love Trapped" Podcast
A podcast exploring relationship scandals and true crime, focusing on a Bachelor-related paternity scandal.
Counterculture
Values and norms differing from mainstream society, particularly prominent in the 1960s.
New Wave Film Techniques
Innovative and experimental filmmaking methods from the late 1950s and 1960s.
Beatlemania
Intense fan frenzy surrounding the English rock band The Beatles in the 1960s.
Andy Warhol
Influential artist known for his work in pop art and experimental filmmaking.
Q&A
What was the significance of The Monkees' TV show in the context of 1960s youth culture?
The Monkees' TV show helped normalize long hair and bell-bottoms for a mainstream audience, making these styles less associated with rebellion.
How did The Monkees transition from fictional characters to a real band?
The band members gradually gained creative control, began writing their own songs, playing their own instruments, and eventually toured, fulfilling the ambitions of their fictional counterparts.
What was Mickey Dolenz's musical background before joining The Monkees?
Dolenz had a diverse background starting with classical guitar, moving to folk music with his sister, and playing in rock and roll cover bands.
How did The Monkees' movie "Head" differ from their TV show?
"Head" allowed for more creative freedom and explored complex, experimental themes, unlike the TV show which was constrained by NBC's standards.
What challenges did The Monkees face regarding their musical authenticity?
Initially, session musicians recorded their music, but the band members pushed for more creative control, eventually playing their own instruments and singing their own vocals.
What was Mickey Dolenz's career path after The Monkees?
After The Monkees, Dolenz pursued directing, working in England for the BBC and other networks for 15 years before returning to the US to continue directing and performing.
Show Notes
Micky Dolenz was a successful child-actor, but he became a full-fledged star at 20 in 1966 as the exuberant singer and drummer of The Monkees -- or rather, as the actor playing that character. At first, the band was a creation of NBC and only existed on the show The Monkees. For the first season, much of the backing music was played by a studio band. Eventually, that changed, and The Monkees' transition from a TV band to a real band is a fascinating story of hard work, perseverance, and marketing genius. Dolenz brings all the energy and humor he showed on The Monkees to this episode of Here's the Thing, telling Alec about the dynamics among the bandmates, his years as a successful TV producer in the UK, and what it's like touring -- and recording -- as a member of The Monkees 50 years after the end of the show.
Originally aired June 16th, 2020.
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