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Growing to 42 Million Users: Audiomack's Growth Playbook | Charlie Kaplan, VP of Product (Audiomack)

Growing to 42 Million Users: Audiomack's Growth Playbook | Charlie Kaplan, VP of Product (Audiomack)

Update: 2025-07-22
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Today, we’re talking with Charlie Kaplan, VP of Product at Audiomack about Product Market Fit and how to tell if you’ve got it or not



In this episode, we discuss:




  • How he drove 50x user growth at Cymbal, and why that still didn’t matter because they lacked strong fit

  • The story of how he launched Audiomack’s product org and scaled to 42M MAUs, on the back of strong product market fit

  • How he transformed failed features into new revenue streams—helping Audiomack grow into a platform big enough to host Taylor Swift, Kendrick Lamar, and more



Links



LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliekaplan/

Audiomack: https://audiomack.com/



Resources



The Lean Startup, by Eric Rise: https://theleanstartup.com/



Chapters



00:00 Introduction

05:23 The Rise and Fall of Cymbal

13:12 Lessons Learned and the Birth of Audio Mac

16:54 Finding Product Market Fit at Audio Mac

28:40 Innovative Growth Strategies and Experiments

35:11 Outro



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Growing to 42 Million Users: Audiomack's Growth Playbook | Charlie Kaplan, VP of Product (Audiomack)

Growing to 42 Million Users: Audiomack's Growth Playbook | Charlie Kaplan, VP of Product (Audiomack)

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