Special guests YANIQUE REDWOOD & RONNIE GALVIN, co-authors of We Quit America: Our Exit from a Country Designed to Kill Black People, join Courtney for a grounded, unflinching conversation about what it really means to leave the U.S. — and why so many Black Americans are even asking the question right now.

Grab your copy of We Quit America here: https://www.wequitamerica.com/  

Also in this episode:

• Why “quitting America” wasn’t a sudden decision, but a slow reckoning shaped by years of organizing, policy work, and watching the same patterns repeat

• The emotional and psychological cost of trying to change systems from the inside — and how to know when staying starts to demand too much

• How the pandemic didn’t create their exit, but stripped away illusions many people were already struggling to maintain

• What “quitting America” looked like long before leaving physically — including mental, financial, and lifestyle divestment

• Why arriving in a new country with intention and care can matter just as much as the decision to leave the U.S.

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