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How We Defeated Trump on Jimmy Kimmel—plus, the attacks on Harvard | Start Making Sense

How We Defeated Trump on Jimmy Kimmel—plus, the attacks on Harvard | Start Making Sense

Update: 2025-09-24
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Trump is trying to block speech that criticizes him. Last week began with JD Vance complaining about an article in The Nation that criticized the ideas of Charlie Kirk. Two days after that, ABC suspended Jimmy Kimmel. And a few days after that, a protest movement forced ABC to put him back on the air. Bhaskar Sunkara comments on the fight over freedom of speech - he's president of The Nation Magazine.

Also: Attacking Harvard is not unique to Trump -- for decades, indeed for centuries, American politicians have made hay by going after Harvard. Historian Beverely Gage talks about what’s familiar, and what’s new, in Trump’s efforts – based on a reconsideration of Richard Hofstadter’s classic 1963 book “Anti-Intellectualism in American Life.”



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How We Defeated Trump on Jimmy Kimmel—plus, the attacks on Harvard | Start Making Sense

How We Defeated Trump on Jimmy Kimmel—plus, the attacks on Harvard | Start Making Sense

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