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How to Change Your Personality with Olga Khazan

How to Change Your Personality with Olga Khazan

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This podcast features Olga Hazon discussing her book, "Me But Better," and her personal journey of changing her personality. She details her efforts to increase extroversion through social activities, reduce neuroticism through meditation and mindfulness, and improve agreeableness through anger management and volunteering. The discussion explores the misconception of fixed personalities, emphasizing the possibility of change through consistent behavioral modifications and addressing core beliefs. The role of self-concept in this process is highlighted, showing how altering behaviors can lead to updated self-perceptions. The podcast also delves into research on personality change across the lifespan, challenging the idea that personality is fixed early in life. Olga shares surprising findings from her research, including studies showing that acting extroverted can lead to increased happiness in introverts. The conversation explores the use of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) to balance acceptance and change, and the importance of a flexible sense of self. Challenges in increasing agreeableness, limitations of the "Big Five" personality model, and the ethical considerations of psychedelic research are also discussed. Olga's experience with mindfulness, meditation, and the Buddhist concept of the "double arrow" (avoiding self-blame) are highlighted, along with the impact of motherhood on her personality and perspective.

Outlines

00:00:07
Introduction: Personality Change & "Me But Better"

Introduction to Olga Hazon and her book, "Me But Better," challenging the fixed personality myth and exploring personality change through consistent action.

00:01:49
Olga's Personal Transformation: Methods & Motivations

Olga details her journey changing extroversion, neuroticism, and agreeableness, outlining her methods and motivations, including stress management and personal growth.

00:04:31
Self-Concept, Behavior, and Lasting Change

The discussion focuses on the interplay between behavior change and self-concept, using Olga's improv experience as an example of how acting extroverted shifted her self-perception. The podcast also explores research on personality change across the lifespan.

00:06:38
Surprising Research Findings & Self-Concept's Impact

Olga shares surprising research findings on personality change, including the positive impact of acting extroverted on introverts' happiness. The conversation delves into the powerful influence of self-concept on behavior and the process of challenging ingrained beliefs.

00:12:51
Practical Techniques: Mindfulness, ACT, and Neuroticism

The podcast explores practical techniques for personality change, focusing on reducing neuroticism through mindfulness, gratitude journaling, and ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy), emphasizing the balance between acceptance and change.

00:30:44
Societal Influences, Agreeableness, and the Big Five Model

The discussion addresses the challenges of increasing agreeableness, considering societal structures and the limitations of the "Big Five" personality model, particularly its cultural bias and focus on individualism. The conversation also touches upon Olga's experience with psychedelics and their potential role in personality change.

00:47:54
Motherhood, Self-Discovery, and Lasting Change

The podcast concludes with a discussion on the process of questioning ingrained beliefs, the role of self-discovery in personality change, and how becoming a mother impacted Olga's personality and perspective.

Keywords

Personality Change


The process of modifying one's personality traits over time through conscious effort, therapy, or life experiences.

Big Five Personality Traits (OCEAN)


A model of personality encompassing Openness, Conscientiousness, Extraversion, Agreeableness, and Neuroticism.

Self-Concept


One's overall view of themselves, significantly influencing behavior and crucial in personality change.

Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)


A therapeutic approach emphasizing acceptance of emotions and commitment to valued actions, useful in personality change.

Mindfulness Meditation


A practice focusing on the present moment without judgment, used to reduce neuroticism and improve emotional regulation.

Neuroticism


A personality trait characterized by anxiety and emotional instability, often targeted for change.

Extroversion


A personality trait characterized by sociability and assertiveness.

Agreeableness


A personality trait characterized by empathy and cooperation, often challenging to change due to societal factors.

Double Arrow (Buddhist Concept)


The idea that suffering is compounded by self-criticism; self-compassion is key.

Q&A

  • How changeable is our personality, and what are some effective methods for changing it?

    Research shows personality is surprisingly changeable. Consistent action, behavioral modifications, and addressing core beliefs are effective.

  • What role does self-concept play in personality change?

    Self-concept significantly influences behavior. Changing behaviors can lead to updated self-perceptions, creating a positive feedback loop.

  • How can ACT and mindfulness practices contribute to personality change?

    ACT helps balance acceptance of difficult emotions with commitment to valued actions. Mindfulness enhances emotional regulation and reduces neuroticism.

  • What are some challenges in changing specific personality traits, such as agreeableness?

    Increasing agreeableness can be difficult due to societal expectations and the need to establish boundaries.

  • What is the significance of the "double arrow" concept in managing neuroticism?

    The "double arrow" highlights self-inflicted suffering from self-criticism. Self-compassion and learning from mistakes are essential.

  • How does the cultural context influence our understanding and approach to personality change?

    The "Big Five" model is primarily relevant to Western cultures. Other cultures may prioritize different traits, requiring culturally sensitive approaches.

  • What are some of the long-term effects of Olga's personality change journey?

    Olga reports decreased neuroticism, increased extroversion, and improved ability to manage negative emotions. Motherhood further enhanced her emotional stability.

Show Notes



Can we really change our personalities? In this episode, Forrest is joined by someone who’s actually tried most of the things we talk about on the podcast: journalist and author Olga Khazan. Olga shares the personal experiments that led to her becoming more extroverted and agreeable, and less neurotic. They discuss the Big Five personality traits, how behavior shapes identity, the role of self-concept, authenticity, and some of the common challenges people face when trying to change a core aspect of who they are.


About Our Guest: Olga Khazan is a writer at The Atlantic, where she covers health, culture, and the complexities of human behavior. She's the author of Weird: The Power of Being an Outsider in an Insider World and her new book Me, But Better: The Science and Promise of Personality Change.


You can watch this episode on YouTube.


Key Topics:


0:00 : Introduction


1:15 : Olga’s personal background with personality change


5:20 : Age, extroversion, self-concept, and Olga’s improv classes


10:10 : Unconditional positive regard, meditation, and mindfulness


20:55 : Trying on different traits, and acceptance vs. change


24:25 : Conscientiousness, openness, agreeableness, and individualism


36:20 : Changing at the ‘trait level’, and the changes Olga has embraced most


43:50 : Psychedelics, non-self, and identifying what’s really true


53:50 : Nature vs. nurture and the aspects we can’t change


56:30 : Parenting and personality change


1:02:05 : Recap


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Rick Hanson, Ph.D., Forrest Hanson