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Jordan has a chinwag with former Blues Social Media Manager, Jared London. The self-educated creative talked about how he fell into the profession and how a DM landed him a job with the Super Rugby team he grew up supporting (12:04 ).

London goes on to explain why he put the players at the forefront of their content (19:00 ) and how legacy media could churn out a better product if they got with the times (30:48 ).

He also gives his take on if Kiwi sports stars will ever be as outspoken as those in America (42:19 ) and shares how disconnecting from the internet keeps him fresh (58:31 ).

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