Jordan catches up with Highlander, Thomas Umaga-Jensen. The midfielder opens the conversation on the topic of injuries and how they've changed his persepective on life (02:44 ) before sharing how he's remained confident after all the setbacks (10:01 ).

He then takes it back to where it all started (17:54 ) and how a boy from Wainuiomata ended up in Dundein after having academy offers from around the country (33:09 ).

Having been around the Highlanders since he left school he talked about how special it was pulling on the jersey for the first time (49:17 ) and what it's like to be to still be sharing a similar journey to his twin this far into life (54:40 ).

The pod was then brought to a close, as always, with the enquiry into his game-day routine (01:01:05 ) and "Ten in the Bin".

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