“Fraud is a trillion dollar problem, about $5 trillion today with that number increasingly rising annually.”

We often think of fraud as the work of greedy masterminds, but the reality can be far more complex. Forensic accounting expert Kelly Richmond Pope, explains how ordinary people can be perpetrators, under the right conditions.

Drawing from years of interviews with white-collar criminals, whistleblowers, and victims, Pope introduces a framework that challenges our common assumptions about who can commit this crime.

Chapters:
00:00 How fraud happens
01:05 Understanding why good people do bad things
01:55 The Fraud Triangle
03:04 Is fraud a victimless crime?
06:29 The different perpetrators of fraud
09:36 Infamous fraud perpetrators
13:41 Why are we addicted to stories of fraud?
14:35 Righteous perpetrators
22:53 Accidental perpetrators

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About Kelly Richmond Pope:

Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope is the Dr. Barry Jay Epstein Endowed Professor of Accounting at DePaul University in Chicago, IL. Pope is a nationally recognized expert in risk, forensic accounting, and white-collar crime research, and an award-winning educator, researcher, author, and award-winning documentary filmmaker. She’s the author of Fool Me Once: Scams, Stories, and Secrets from the Trillion Dollar Fraud Industry (Harvard Business Review Press, March 2023). Pope teaches managerial and forensic accounting both at the undergraduate and graduate level.

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