You might know Steve from his very popular YouTube channel at youtube.com/steveshives. Steve covers both Star Trek commentary and political commentary – kinda makes sense that we'd eventually connect, me being the co-host of Trek Politics. As we discussed today, Steve is an alpha liberal and he doesn't shy away from fully owning his liberalism. So today, we started off with a little bit about the politics of Star Trek and what Stephen Miller had to say about the new Trek series Starfleet Academy, then we segued into the existential crisis for democracy and even managed to talk some Civil War by the end. So stick around. If you're not already, I think you'll be a Steve Shives fan after today. Meantime, make sure to support this podcast at patreon.com/bobcescashow. Music by Marina Rocks. Support our sponsor Quince.com!

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