Kat and Phoebe discuss a fun philosophical question about desire, a fine literary essay about not getting divorced, and the sacred gossip machine known as the whisper network.

Is it better to desire or be desired? Many journalists, etc weigh in: The Desire Question｜Dirt

Emily Gould decompensates, turns decompensation into literature.

Should I Leave My Husband? The Lure of Divorce

The article shall be a book!

https://twitter.com/EmilyGouldNYmag/status/1757840399928844671

Phoebe on Emily Gould’s not-divorcing essay:

Phoebe on Emily Gould’s yes, divorcing crowdfunder that preceded it: 

Kat on whisper networks and the women who whisper:

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