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JOCKO WILLINK | Leading in Challenging and Uncertain Times

JOCKO WILLINK | Leading in Challenging and Uncertain Times

Update: 2020-07-213


It’s easy to lead in comfortable times. In fact, I’m not even sure if we would call that leadership. It’s the times that are challenging that your true measurement as a leader comes into question. And, regardless of how you feel about the political landscape, COVID-19, and the civil unrest in society, I think we’d all agree that these are uncertain and challenging times.

Today, I’m joined by my friend and 4-time guest, Jocko Willink, to talk about how to pivot effectively, overcoming the resistance to change in yourself and others, the differences between being reactive and proactive, how to take and inspire initiative, the dichotomy of caring for other people, and so much more.


  • Going virtual
  • Effective training tools
  • Overcoming hurdles
  • Resisting change
  • Emotional decisions
  • The false dichotomy
  • Resolving conflict
  • Stripping away humanity
  • Being a reasonable human being
  • Proving people right
  • Exploiting opportunity


Gents, I am honored to introduce (for the 4th time on this podcast) my friend, former Navy SEAL Commander, New York Times Bestselling Author, and founder of Echelon Front, Jocko Willink.

I can honestly say that after having multiple conversations with and getting to know Jocko on a personal and professional level that there isn’t a single person more qualified to talk about leadership than him. And, these are certainly times that call for leadership.

As you’re well aware, Jocko is the founder of the leadership organization, Echelon Front, has written multiple New York Times Bestselling books, and, in case you’ve been living under a rock, the host of the extremely popular podcast, Jocko Podcast.

Our conversations get better each time and this one is no exception.


If you haven’t already heard, the free Battle Ready course is now available.

In it, I’m going to send you a series of emails over 30 days designed to give you all the tools, resources, and information you need to make the next 90 days the most productive, profitable, and prosperous time in your life.

I can say that with certainty because thousands of men have now gone through the program I’ll teach and they’re making more money, securing promotions, getting the girl, losing weight, getting strong, connecting with their kids, finding meaning and, like Pedro would say, “making their wildest dreams come true.”

Of course, I can’t guarantee that but I can guarantee that if you implement the exact strategies I’ll teach you, you will accomplish more out of your life than you ever have in the past.

Head to to get signed up.

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JOCKO WILLINK | Leading in Challenging and Uncertain Times

JOCKO WILLINK | Leading in Challenging and Uncertain Times