On this episode, Bill sits down with fitness icon, wellness entrepreneur and straight-talking firebrand Jillian Michaels. Bill and Jillian settle in for a free-wheeling chat that drifts from lighthearted ribbing to debates about public health, politics, and pop culture. One minute they’re laughing about early-morning phone alerts or swapping travel stories; the next, they’re chewing over whether either political party still speaks to the middle. Big personalities and bigger opinions collide, but beneath the jokes they keep circling the same question: how do we stay sane—and a little healthier.

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