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The Will Cain ShowJohn Ashbrook and Michael Duncan: Kash Patel, RFK Jr., and Tulsi Gabbard Face The Senate! PLUS, POTUS, Hegseth, and Duffy's Fierce Leadership Test
The Will Cain ShowJohn Ashbrook and Michael Duncan: Kash Patel, RFK Jr., and Tulsi Gabbard Face The Senate! PLUS, POTUS, Hegseth, and Duffy's Fierce Leadership Test
John Ashbrook and Michael Duncan: Kash Patel, RFK Jr., and Tulsi Gabbard Face The Senate! PLUS, POTUS, Hegseth, and Duffy's Fierce Leadership Test
Update: 2025-01-30
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Story #1: Consequential first hours in office for Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth as the nation faces its first commercial airline crash since 2009 after a military Black Hawk helicopter collided with American Airlines Flight 5342 over the Potomac.
Story #2: Will breaks down the confirmation hearings of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Kash Patel, and Tulsi Gabbard and The View hosts' attacks on new White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt with the co-hosts of The Ruthless Podcast, John Ashbrook and Michael Duncan.
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rough day at the office, first day for transportation secretary Sean Duffy.
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A few days into his tenure as secretary of defense, Pete Heggseth must deal with a plane crash in Washington DC involving an army black cock and a passenger jet headed into Reagan National Airport.
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We had Pete Heggseth in his first exclusive interview yesterday on the Wilkinshow.
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Two, let's talk to the guys from Ruth plus about the way the ladies from the view.
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Treating new White House press secretary Caroline Leather.
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I got a text yesterday from one of my buddies listening to the Wilkinshow on KRLD in Dallas, Texas.
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He said, "I thought you had a fill in yesterday.
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Your voice, it didn't sound like you."
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Yeah, it's me.
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In fact, it's one of those voices where you're like, "Can I always sound like this?"
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A little gravlier, you know?
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Like I've been smoking a pack of marble or reds.
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You'll deeper.
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I also got a lot of emails from viewers.
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We need you back at the top of your game.
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I hear you.
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I'm muscling through.
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We muscle through yesterday with an hour with meat eater, founder Steve Ronella.
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But we had one hell of a show yesterday on the Wilkinshow.
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Breaking news left and right.
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And the kind of show that I really end up liking and want to have where it is unpredictable.
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It's unproduced and that you don't start out the day saying, "Here's exactly how it's going to go."
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Instead, middle of the hour, Christy Nome is ready to break some news about DHS defunding.
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NGOs who help facilitate illegal immigration.
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And then, during a commercial break, I get a phone call from the Secretary of Defense.
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He says, "I want to come on now."
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And so, yesterday, he had his first interview since becoming confirmed as the Secretary of Defense.
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Let's get into that with story number one.
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It is a rough day at the office.
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It's a rough day for America.
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Some 67 people appear to have lost their lives in Washington, DC.
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A regional jet headed from Wichita, Kansas to Reagan National.
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Flying over the Potomac River collided with an Army Black Hawk helicopter.
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It appears that everyone involved perished.
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Second day on the job for our friend, the new Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy.
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Roughly the third or fourth day on the job for our friend, the new Secretary of Defense, Pete Higgsith.
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Conflicting reports about what exactly went down.
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It appears that from what I've read, the Army Black Hawk helicopter was crossing through the flight path of planes taking off and landing into Reagan.
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Not uncommon from what I've been led to believe.
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Air traffic control warned the Black Hawk helicopter about a regional jet and asked, in fact, if they saw it, they had it their way to which there was an affirmation from the Black Hawk.
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There is some suspicion they were looking at a plane taking off to their right and not a plane landing to their left.
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They banked or cloned and hit a mid-air collision with the landing American Airlines flight from Kansas.
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Most of the time, this type of thing is attributable to human error.
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Was it an error on behalf of air traffic control?
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Was it an error on behalf of the Army?
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Helicopter pilot, the investigation will have to reveal.
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President Trump and Pete Higgsith and Sean Duffy both just at the podium a little bit earlier talking about, though, this is an opportunity while not laying the blame necessarily on any particular air traffic controller or any particular pilot.
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But this is an opportunity to revisit the standards we hold for everyone and ensure that we have the best and the brightest in all positions.
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They talked about a story from one year ago where DEI initiatives under the Biden administration suggested that FAA and other government departments should prioritize those with severe intellectual disabilities and psychiatric disabilities.
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They, too, should be represented.
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Again, there is no indication that is what played a role.
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Other than we know, human error played a role in what just happened in DC.
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Yesterday, after I got that call from Pete, he did focus in on the new standard at DOD.
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And that is color blindness and merit.
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Here's what he said in his first interview on the Wilkins show.
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It was one of the first thing you did.
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You wrote it looked like on a notepad.
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DOD does not equal DEI.
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What's being done right now to cut out DEI in the military?
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Well, President Trump put out the executive order on it.
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We've got our directive coming out today.
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It might even be out already.
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And I think President Trump said it perfect in his inaugural address, which is what we're reinforcing in our directive as well.
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DOD will be colorblind and merit based.
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Colorblind as it has been and merit based as it should be.
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Because as you know better than anybody, DEI sends the opposite signals.
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It's picking winners and losers.
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It's picking people against each other based on their color, their background, or their gender.
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That's what Pete Heggseth had to say yesterday.
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At that time, little did you know there was a tragedy on the way that he and Sean Duffy the Department of Transportation would have to handle.
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We wish them the best luck in dealing with this.
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We are thoughts and prayers with everyone involved in this horrible tragedy in the families who have lost loved ones.
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We pray that we have the right leadership to put in place the right people to keep everything running not just safely but the best way possible here in America.
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Don't look away from the Wilkins show.
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That's going to be the way it goes.
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I guess I would have had I thought about it prepared and promoted the fact that we have the first interview with Pete Heggseth.
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But in retrospect, I like the way it went.
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Don't look away.
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You never know who's going to call in.
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Don't look away.
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You never know what's going to happen.
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Next on the Wilkins show.
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I do know what's going to happen next on this digital streaming live version of the Wilkins show.
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In fact, let's dip in if we could for just one moment.
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And let's listen to what's going on in the confirmation hearing with the nomination for Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard.
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In Syria.
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The question specifically that I raised around these two came about because there were two reasons.
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One, that assessment was made with high confidence and low information.
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The information that they had came from those on the ground in an al-Qaeda-controlled area, and therefore, were al-Qaeda-linked sources.
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And there was conflicting information that came from the UN's office on the prohibition of chemical weapons inspectors, as well as an MIT professor Ted Postal.
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Don't want to talk about him for a second.
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So did you look into his credentials, yes or no?
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Yes.
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And were you aware of his appearances on Russian today, which is used by the Russians to disseminate government approved messages?
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No.
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Were you aware postal relied on a chemistry student with a record of defending the Assad regime?
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At that time, I was not.
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I have been made aware since.
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Let's take down the audio today.
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Keep the video up if you could for just one moment.
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One of the things that she's answering for here is her visit to Syria and her conversation with Bashar al-Assad.
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She has had a very good answer to this question that if she does not believe American leaders, she'll close off any potential conversations.
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I want to point out one thing that I notice as you see this video.
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If you look over, if you're watching on YouTube or Facebook, if you're listening on Spotify, Apple or on radio, I'll explain this picture to you.
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Tulsi Gabbard is sitting there in front of her cigarette hearing, wearing all white.
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She looks stunning.
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And over her right shoulder.
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And she's speaking, because I happen to know him, is a Navy seal named Cash Larson.
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And I just think it's kind of fascinating to see, not unlike what we saw with Pete Higgs at the support Tulsi Gabbard has from actual war fighters.
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When she's accused of treason by people that sit up on that panel.
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Behind her, she has the support of actual war fighters.
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Also taking place right now is a second day for RFK Jr.
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He's again taking questions.
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Let's take a moment now if we can and switch over and hear what's going on in the confirmation hearings with Robert F.
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Kennedy Jr.
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You can firm again today that the trip had nothing to do with vaccines.
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My purpose in going down there had nothing to do with vaccines.
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Well, I have in my hand a blog post in 2021, in which you say the anti-vaccine group children's health defense, which you ran,
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offered to fund the purpose of the trip to Samoa.
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And in the same post, you state that the trip was ultimately arranged by an anti-vaccine activist.
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And during the trip, you met with an activist who later compared vaccine mandates to Nazi Germany.
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And during that trip, you also discussed vaccines with the Prime Minister and the Director General of Health of Samoa.
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The Director General of Health said you specifically discussed your views on vaccine safety fears.
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And with unanimous consent, I will submit those blog posts, Mr.
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Chairman.
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With that objection.
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I'm going to ask you again.
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Did the trip have nothing to do with vaccines as you told my colleagues?
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Not to deal with vaccines.
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And if you want me to explain, I will.
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Did it have anything to do with vaccines?
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Oh, it did not.
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It did not.
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Well, my purpose in the trip was not to.
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I ended up having conversations with people, some of whom I never intended to meet.
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Oh, yeah.
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Any anti-vaccine help finance your trip?
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Oh, well, you call them anti-vaccine.
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That's not what they would call themselves.
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I call myself safe.
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I have this conversation here.
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I believe that's between Senator Ed Markey and Robert F.
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Kennedy Jr.
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about what happened in American Samoa some years ago.
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Robert F.
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Kennedy Jr.
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is accused of going there and proselytizing against vaccines after there were several vaccine deaths.
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In Samoa.
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And then months later, when they adopted some of these measures, there was an outbreak of measles, I believe, that ended up killing 12 children in Samoa.
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So that's for two days, you've probably heard this story brought up when it comes to RFK.
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All right.
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Let's break down RFK.
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Tulsi Gabbard and much more now with the boys from Ruthless.
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We've got John Ashbrook, Michael Duncan.
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They are the founding partners of Cavalry.
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They're also the co-hosts of the Ruthless podcast.
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And they're a incredibly charming performance on GSC Waters.
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On time last night, they were kind enough to join us here today on the Wilkins show.
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What's up, fellas?
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Well, thank you so much for having us.
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Glad to see that you're upright.
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I mean, this audience gets more out of you than they get out of almost any other host on any other show.
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You're standing.
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You're delivering, even though you're sick.
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And thank you for having us.
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Yeah, you're like the Ryan Seacrest of the Fox universe right now.
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Kind of doing it all, pal.
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What's that everywhere?
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I got to worry.
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Well, I got to be careful there.
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Duncan, I can't be, you know, I can't risk over exposure.
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I can't be Brian.
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Kill me.
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You know.
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No, I saw you guys last night on on waters.
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It was great.
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You guys did a great job.
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And for those of you listening, these guys know I'm a little under the weather.
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Not just because my voice is in particularly manly today.
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But because I had to cancel on them and doing Ruthless yesterday, I thought maybe three hours was a little much to push the push the voice yesterday.
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I could only do two, but I appreciate them understanding.
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So let's start with RFK, guys.
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You know what's weird to me?
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Betting odds.
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I looked this morning at 76% after the hearing issue.
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I think it went up to 86.
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It's hovered in the 80s.
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It's really high.
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It's really high compared to what I feel like I'm hearing from the panel in the Senate, even among Republicans.
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It feels more antagonistic than the betting odds seem to project for RFK.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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It feels like he did a really good job, I think, of fighting back against both the Democrats and Republicans on the committee who are skeptical of his confirmation,
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you know, particularly around the vaccine issue.
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And similar to what we saw in the Tulsi hearing as well, it seems like a lot of their attacks are this guilt by association from a long time ago.
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The Assad thing and then this American Samoa thing.
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And it's all how they characterize it, right?
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You know, in RFK said there and that clip you played, they wouldn't call themselves anti-baxers.
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You call them that, but they're interested in the health care of children, right?
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And so I think he really did a good job of disabusing people of the notion that, you know, he's going to do a poor job at HHS.
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Yeah.
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And another thing that caught my attention about that exchange he had with Ed Markey, far left wing senator from Massachusetts, was that this is day two of Democrats driving this vaccine narrative.
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And RFK said yesterday very plainly, I am not anti-vax.
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He was unequivocal, but Democrats aren't satisfied with the black and white unequivocal answer because it messes up the bullshit story they're trying to sell to everybody.
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So you have another day losing time asking in the exact same questions over and over again.
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And it's just like there's no not only is there where they not paying attention yesterday, but there's just it lacks a lot of creativity on the Democratic side of the aisle.
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And I hope that these betting markets are right because when people went into the voting booths last November, they voted for change in Washington.
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And there were a lot of people who were swept up by the maha movement.
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They want something different from the American healthcare system.
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They want somebody who's a leader willing to question all of the assumptions that we just bought into over the last who knows how many years and RFK can do that.
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And so there are a lot of people who cast their vote in November who are crossing their fingers that he can get across the finish line here in the next week.
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I want to come back to that what you just pointed out Ashbrook about the coalition that helped elect Donald Trump.
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But let's stay on vaccines for just one moment.
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This whole vaccine conversation.
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So first of all, Robert F.
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Kinney Jr.
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is not someone that I sign up for 100% of his opinions.
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And I'm sure that you guys don't either.
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I mean, over time, he said things on climate change or gun control that I am diametrically opposed to.
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But I don't require for him to be the lead of HHS 100% fidelity to my own personal opinions.
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I had Steve Renella on yesterday is like, I don't know anybody who shares all of my opinions, including my wife.
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These are big ones though.
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I mean, I will say these are big ones.
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But on the vaccine thing, it feels like the left has turned that into so many of other issues they have.
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It's like, it's a flag they fly and it's either your pro or your anti, right?
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And you're forced, like you said, Ashbrook into this dichotomy, this black and white proposition.
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Are you on team vaccine?
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Are you on team anti vaccine?
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Where it's like, what I like about RFK is I'm not sure he's right about everything on every vaccine.
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But I do think he's thinking through a lot of it and I think that we should think through a lot of it.
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We should make individual health decisions and we shouldn't be forced into this situation of, oh yeah, no, no, I'm on team vaccine for sure.
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Absolutely.
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All cases, all times I'm on team vaccine.
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Can't we have critical thought about it?
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Can't we have some disagreements, some individual choice about vaccines and can't we explore explore the effects of vaccines?
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Do they have ties to any negativities, any negative externalities at all?
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Ashbrook.
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You have a lot of regular people out there who ask these questions every day.
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They wonder and then when they're faced with like what they see on TV from Democrats in Washington, they get exactly what you talked about.
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No, no, no, no, don't ask any questions.
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If you ask questions, you're crazy.
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And RFK said yesterday I am not anti-vax, but people want questions asked and aren't isn't that part of science?
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Isn't the whole idea behind science to have a hypothesis and then get to the bottom of what's behind it?
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Like I think that people want something different.
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We know that people want something different from their government, which is why they voted for President Trump in November.
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I mean, it wasn't just a small victory either where he won the Republican States and then eaked it out in one of the purple states.
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He won every single battleground state and the popular vote.
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There's a reason for that and people wanted change.
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Yeah, in my question back to every person who's criticizing RFK, excuse me, is who exactly is satisfied with the status quo?
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I mean, not the American people who elected Donald Trump, not the American people who had to survive through two years of COVID lockdowns and a government that basically shut down any sort of criticism of vaccines or any of the procedures around COVID.
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I think it's healthy.
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That's part of the scientific method is questioning your assumptions.
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And that's what I like about RFK.
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I mean, America should be healthier.
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We have a chronic disease problem in this country.
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We have a childhood obesity problem in this country.
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Shouldn't we be asking the questions why?
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Exactly.
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Yes, and to both of your point, they both of you have made now.
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I think these Republican senators, and I don't know who it will be right now.
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We're watching Lisa Mrakowski questioning Robert F.
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Kennedy, Jr.
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I think these Republican senators might not be reading the room.
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Now they might be reading a different room.
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They might be reading the room of whoever is, you know, contributing to their campaigns, well, not that's the pharmaceutical industry or the ag industry.
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But the maha movement was really important.
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I'm not sure.
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I don't know.
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I'm really not sure if Donald Trump wins the presidency without RFK, Jr.
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And if they turn their back on him now, these Republican senators, there's going to be a lot of people really upset.
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I think there's going to be a lot of people that are currently in the coalition who are counting themselves in some way as Republicans who will look up and go, well, I feel like I was had.
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You know, I'm not, I'm not with these guys, whatever this team is, team Republican.
00:22:09
Yeah, I mean, I really hope they're listening to the voters because like you said, well, I feel the same way I don't necessarily agree with everything that RFK believes,
00:22:20
especially on climate, but President Trump promised us I'm not going to let Bobby touch our oil.
00:22:25
And at HHS, you're not, you're not involved with energy decisions.
00:22:29
You're not involved with forcing climate change down our throws.
00:22:33
That's not his purview is purview is health.
00:22:35
And that's what that's to your point that that led a movement that delivered a lot of votes for President Trump.
00:22:43
And I just, you can't look at that and turn the other way and pretend like it didn't exist.
00:22:48
People won't change.
00:22:49
Yeah.
00:22:50
And well, honestly, all of these scandals seem pretty small, small potatoes for RFK.
00:22:56
I mean, the last time a Kennedy was in the United States Senate and he drove a woman into, you know, over a bridge into some water and she died and they let him stay in the Senate for 47 years.
00:23:06
So I mean, I like his odds.
00:23:10
How incredible would that be if he brought that up?
00:23:22
I think I'm well below the Kennedy line.
00:23:23
His own family has just been absolutely vicious against him.
00:23:24
I saw something about Caroline Kennedy calling him a predator the other day.
00:23:25
Just unbelievable.
00:23:27
Yeah.
00:23:28
You know, I saw echo that this running actor, I think it was Billy Baldwin said I used to be his friend, but I echo Caroline sentiment that he's a predator.
00:23:38
That you're right.
00:23:39
I'm like predator.
00:23:40
That's a, that's it.
00:23:41
That's not like he's rude, you know, he's not a good guy.
00:23:46
He's a predator.
00:23:47
That's like a whole nother level of accusation.
00:23:49
Like what, what was he hunting as a predator?
00:23:53
Strong.
00:24:00
All right, let's move over to the ladies from the few.
00:24:03
Caroline Levitt gave her first press conference as White House press secretary.
00:24:07
And this is what Joy Bayar and Wippy Goldberg had to say about Caroline's performance watch.
00:24:14
I would like this young lady who's this is her first job.
00:24:18
I would like her to do a little homework.
00:24:20
Because she said something yesterday didn't really piss me off.
00:24:23
And that was she said there will be no walkeness here.
00:24:26
Oh, yeah, let me explain something to you.
00:24:29
Because without that walkeness, you might not have that job.
00:24:33
Yeah, because.
00:24:37
Because women were not invited to that table.
00:24:43
Okay.
00:24:49
Um, the view.
00:24:49
Thanks, Wippy.
00:24:50
Yeah, thanks.
00:24:50
Thanks.
00:24:50
Thanks a lot for that incredible analysis, Wippy.
00:24:53
I'm sure that more people are going to watch the view now after they've learned that you're even more of a moron today than you were last year at this time.
00:25:01
Yeah, I was the audience for this show.
00:25:04
We're ignorance.
00:25:05
What is that chart?
00:25:06
We're ignorance and certainty correlate to one another.
00:25:10
What is that chart?
00:25:11
You guys know what I'm talking about?
00:25:12
Oh, I know what you're done where you are.
00:25:14
Yeah, it's like the less people actually know.
00:25:17
Yeah, exactly.
00:25:19
I can't remember the name of the chart.
00:25:20
But you know, that's 100%.
00:25:21
I love the part where she said this is her first job.
00:25:25
Caroline Levitt.
00:25:26
I believe she ran for Congress.
00:25:27
She's worked, you know, on Donald Trump's campaign.
00:25:30
I mean, this is somebody who has credentials to have the job that she does.
00:25:33
And I think she's doing a fantastic job.
00:25:35
Yeah, and there's so much, there's so much more power in showing people than telling people as you know, very well will.
00:25:40
And what she showed the entire world, her first time at the podium was excellence.
00:25:45
I mean, you do not, we haven't seen that well executed of a press conference from the White House press secretary in years.
00:25:56
And I think that this is another example of President Trump making just an outstanding choice for somebody on his team.
00:26:03
It sets a tone that his administration is very serious this time around.
00:26:07
They really know what they're doing.
00:26:09
And they, they, I'm calling you man.
00:26:12
I don't know anybody who is honest and honest observer who wouldn't tell you that she was very impressive on that first day.
00:26:21
Yeah, I think she does really well.
00:26:24
I think what she does really well.
00:26:26
And I think we saw JD Vance do the same thing in that interview on CBS News with Margaret Brennan.
00:26:30
But there's a new attitude among Republican politicians.
00:26:35
And that is we no longer have to accept the BS premise of the question that the liberal media asks.
00:26:42
You know, there was the question that someone on the front row the briefing asked about well, I mean, how many of these people who are being deported are criminals and she said, well, all of them because they crossed the border illegally that makes them a criminal.
00:26:56
And for too long, we've sort of played the game of the left and accepted their language and their rules for how we're supposed to, you know, conduct politics and it's just a false choice to have to play their game.
00:27:09
Yeah, Michael is exactly right.
00:27:11
What that sounded like 20 years ago was Republicans asked a question about immigration.
00:27:15
They're like, well, our country is a nation of immigrants.
00:27:18
We're also a nation of laws.
00:27:19
And then their, their quote gets put to the bottom of the story.
00:27:22
And then you have 20 years where nothing is done about the border.
00:27:26
Nothing is done about immigration.
00:27:27
Contrast that to right now where you have complete, uncomflicted real leadership from this administration where they just aren't going to take it from the press and the Democrats anymore.
00:27:38
And I think that that's why people are so excited here after just one week of President Trump in office.
00:27:44
Look, I want to say that's because Republicans of the past ran in fear of a negative story in New York Times, what we've seen is the decline in influence of the New York Times and the ability of a politician to go directly to an audience.
00:27:56
I want to say it's that.
00:27:57
But then I remember, no, it's not.
00:27:59
It's because of Donald Trump.
00:28:01
And that's the only reason.
00:28:02
Like the way that he handled the press directly gave everybody inspiration and confidence to be able to do it like that themselves.
00:28:08
Reject the premise be strong.
00:28:10
And I look, everything can come off as Trump's sycophantcy.
00:28:14
But the truth is, I think to properly reflect his place in history requires some level of acknowledgement that he's a singular figure.
00:28:23
And he's singularly changed the course of American politics.
00:28:26
And the way that we handle so many baked in institutions like the view condescendingly suggesting that she do her homework.
00:28:35
Joy Bay are, by the way, she thinks Caroline Levin's pretty hot watch.
00:28:40
>> She's probably been put in there because according to Donald Trump, she's a ten.
00:28:44
You know that's what it is.
00:28:45
>> I want to be clear, though, it's not her first job.
00:28:47
It was her first press briefing.
00:28:48
She worked in the previous one.
00:28:49
>> She's the first time that she has been that she may be.
00:28:55
But my point is that job would not maybe have been open to her.
00:29:01
>> No, I understand.
00:29:02
I just want to clarify that.
00:29:04
>> Yeah.
00:29:05
There we go.
00:29:05
She's a ten.
00:29:06
That's why she got the job.
00:29:07
And by the way, we're not going to dive into the debate of whether or not she's an eight, nine, ten, seven.
00:29:12
We're not going to do that.
00:29:13
But we are going to say, I don't care if that did play a role.
00:29:17
I don't care if Donald Trump is likes the sedix.
00:29:22
>> If he thinks it's part of a good, a good public face to look good.
00:29:28
He says it every time, by the way.
00:29:29
Look at Pete.
00:29:30
Good looking guy.
00:29:31
>> You know, whoever it may be, you know, it comes right out of central casting.
00:29:36
>> What is it that Deon Sanders says?
00:29:39
Look good.
00:29:40
Feel good.
00:29:41
Feel good.
00:29:41
Play good.
00:29:42
Play good.
00:29:43
>> I like that.
00:29:50
I wish he was the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
00:29:53
That's really good.
00:29:55
>> Good for you to be able to rattle him off, by the way.
00:30:00
Did you guys?
00:30:01
Duncan and Ashbrook, did you guys like Caroline's answer, though, about the drones in New Jersey?
00:30:09
She confirmed they were legal flights, FAA, I guess, sanctioned for quote unquote research a month ago.
00:30:17
This was like 24 hour new cycle stuff.
00:30:20
And now we're like, okay, it's cool.
00:30:23
Everybody knew, you know, which I don't know why the Biden administration couldn't just say that.
00:30:27
But it does leave an open question like, what are they researching?
00:30:30
Do you find, are you satisfied with where we were on this story that drove everyone's attention not long ago?
00:30:36
>> I mean, I'm satisfied that all the American people wanted was a little bit of information that their government knew what was happening.
00:30:43
That's it.
00:30:44
And in that vacuum, everybody's imagination runs wild.
00:30:47
I mean, who wants to think that there could be all of these drones off the coast of the United States and the government has no clue what it is?
00:30:54
All the Biden administration had to do is acknowledge that they had an under control and that this was all kosher.
00:31:00
But they refused to do that.
00:31:01
They refused to provide even a centilla of information that provided confidence to the American people.
00:31:06
So yeah, I'm satisfied by our answer.
00:31:08
It's all I really wanted.
00:31:09
>> Yeah.
00:31:10
I don't know what they're researching.
00:31:13
>> You agree with me or Duncan?
00:31:15
>> To be honest with you, I would like to know what they're researching, but I'm satisfied with this answer, especially coming from the source of President Trump's administration.
00:31:25
If they have a good reason to not tell us the details of what they were researching, okay.
00:31:30
But I mean, the acknowledgement that they know what's going on and that there is some sort of certification process and that this isn't like an Iranian mothership over New Jersey.
00:31:40
>> That was out there like firing off their guns in the backyard.
00:31:46
I mean, it just brings a little bit of like sanity to the conversation.
00:31:52
>> Yeah.
00:31:54
That Iranian thing, that was a congressman that said that.
00:31:57
That never made any sense.
00:31:58
Like, if there's an Iranian mothership, hey, shoot it down.
00:32:03
No, it always made more sense that it was us and it was ours.
00:32:06
And we were looking for something, researching something.
00:32:09
Now I'd like to know what it is we were researching what we were looking for.
00:32:15
We talked about RFK and the voters requiring this kind of change, this kind of, we'll call it radical, radical approach to health.
00:32:23
I feel the same way about D&I and I feel the same way about the FBI.
00:32:28
Right now, a Capitol Hill cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard are sitting in front of their committee hearings.
00:32:35
Do you guys, you're there in DC.
00:32:39
Tulsi's betting odds are way lower.
00:32:41
They're like 56%.
00:32:42
Cash is high.
00:32:43
He's at 93%.
00:32:45
Do you feel like this kind of radical approach to shaking up these institutions is something that is going to find, will it find its support with Republicans?
00:32:53
Man, I sure hope so.
00:32:55
And the clip that you led off with will about with Tulsi and this guy, Mark Kelly, Senator from Arizona, who is like pressing her on past associations.
00:33:06
What he's not talking about is the controversy that has surrounded him for years about his connections to China in businesses with ties to the CCP.
00:33:16
This guy has been as controversial on that score is anybody else.
00:33:20
So it's not like he's got clean hands and any of this.
00:33:24
And what most impresses me about Tulsi Gabbard is her background.
00:33:28
In 2003, she enlisted, she enlisted.
00:33:33
Think about, think about what it was going on in 2003.
00:33:36
We were rolling into Iraq and she took the affirmative step to enlist and then she was there deployed for a year, not long thereafter.
00:33:47
It takes a special person.
00:33:49
Somebody who cares about our country and is willing to put their life on the line for what they believe.
00:33:54
And my question to these people making the decision is like, if she's good enough to go and fight and possibly die for you, why isn't she good enough to then lead a security operation in this country.
00:34:07
I mean, she worked her way up through the military ranks.
00:34:10
And I understand that there are some questions about she was a Democrat for a while.
00:34:15
Those are questions that she has been faced with in these meetings with Republican senators, but I'll tell you the one guy who I watch on security issues almost more than anybody else is Tom Cotton from Arkansas.
00:34:28
This guy cares very deeply about national security in our country.
00:34:31
This is a guy who put his life on the line for years and years serving in our military.
00:34:37
And he's he is now basically running intelligence on the on the Senate side.
00:34:42
And Tom Cotton supports her.
00:34:44
So I think that that is as good of a vote of confidence as you can get anywhere in her ability to do the job.
00:34:50
And I really hope people follow Tom Cotton's lead.
00:34:54
I mean, I'll say the same thing.
00:34:56
That's a great hotel.
00:34:57
I don't want to just go on and on and on, but I mean cash.
00:34:59
He he worked for the Obama administration.
00:35:02
He was awarded by the Obama Justice Department for prosecuting terrorists.
00:35:08
You know, like these people are decorated.
00:35:10
They've worked these jobs and Democrats gloss over it and try to not not let that be a part of the conversation, but we can't forget they're well qualified people for the jobs they've been nominated for.
00:35:21
It's a great point about Tom Cotton.
00:35:23
I mean, he's about as hawkish as it gets.
00:35:26
And if he is supporting Tulsi Gabbard, that's quite a that's quite a statement.
00:35:30
I mean, Duncan, I'm particularly excited about cash.
00:35:33
I really am.
00:35:34
I just think he's I don't think he's putting on an act, man.
00:35:37
Like I've met him in person.
00:35:39
He is like no nonsense.
00:35:41
He is no nonsense guy.
00:35:43
He has tons of experience to Ashbrook's point earlier by person experience, like actually doing the work.
00:35:49
And I think the FBI in particular, if I had to pick like one of these agencies that needed to be, you know, shook up.
00:35:59
The FBI is number one top of the list, you know, back back from 2017 when Jim Comey's going to Trump tower and telling president elect Trump.
00:36:08
Hey, I have this dossier.
00:36:09
Congratulations on being president.
00:36:11
But were you in Russia, you know, urinating on Russian prostitutes?
00:36:16
You know, I'm not going to tell you about the provenance of this information.
00:36:20
Of course, it was coming from Hillary Clinton's campaign.
00:36:23
And he was using it to basically entrap the president elect.
00:36:26
I mean, a disgusting act.
00:36:29
And I just hope cash can get in there and refocus the FBI and its actual mission of catching bad guys.
00:36:37
It's just, it seems like common sense, but common sense is rare in this town.
00:36:43
Yeah, I'm excited for those very same reasons about cash, Patel.
00:36:47
What are you drinking, Duncan?
00:36:48
What flavor of La Croix?
00:36:49
You're rocking here today.
00:36:50
But let me see this is it's like a.
00:36:52
This is a very yeah.
00:36:54
It's a guava.
00:36:55
Sampala guava.
00:36:56
It's delightful.
00:36:58
It really dances on the tongue.
00:37:01
I can hear your testosterone dropping.
00:37:03
I heard you use.
00:37:07
I'm going to make you guys a deal.
00:37:09
I'm not going to pretend that I discovered ruthless.
00:37:11
But I was early to market.
00:37:13
Okay.
00:37:14
So here's my deal with you guys.
00:37:16
You can go on Jesse Waters and you can do all that.
00:37:19
Okay.
00:37:19
That's fine.
00:37:20
That's fine.
00:37:21
But when we start rotating you into the four, which is going to be very soon.
00:37:25
In fact, right after the show, I'm going to call my epee and say we're getting a ruthless into the rotation on a fairly regular basis.
00:37:30
You do it from that set with those microphones.
00:37:32
You go do that, you know, McLaughlin report set you were with Jesse last night.
00:37:37
I don't know what that was with the wood paneling and the light blue.
00:37:41
You can go do that with Jesse.
00:37:42
But that set with those mics.
00:37:44
That's that's for the Wilkane show.
00:37:46
Can we make that deal?
00:37:48
You got it.
00:37:49
It's a deal.
00:37:49
And I mean, I'll tell you what we're on TV on TV.
00:37:53
Yeah, we will do it.
00:37:54
We will do it.
00:37:55
We'll do it.
00:37:56
Scouts honor.
00:37:56
We are very proud members of the Willis show over here.
00:37:59
Well, so whatever you want, we'll do.
00:38:03
Okay, deal.
00:38:04
You can do Megan Kelly off that set.
00:38:07
You know, I think no other Fox shows that set is for Will show.
00:38:12
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Well, thank you.
00:38:21
All right.
00:38:22
There they go.
00:38:23
All right.
00:38:24
Let's take a quick break.
00:38:25
We'll come back.
00:38:25
I want to show you.
00:38:27
I don't even get it.
00:38:28
Ten full pat wants to talk about this.
00:38:31
Squint your eyes at this cheeseburger.
00:38:33
And who do you see?
00:38:34
All right.
00:38:35
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00:39:21
There's something going on right now.
00:39:22
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00:39:24
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00:39:29
I, uh, all I know is James and, um, two days are laughing.
00:39:35
They're laughing.
00:39:37
Okay.
00:39:37
Oh, it changed.
00:39:38
What do you guys laugh?
00:39:39
What?
00:39:40
So we got a new haircut there, bud.
00:39:43
Tinfoil got a haircut.
00:39:45
Everybody was laughing about it, but doesn't look so different to me.
00:39:47
No, it looks like he changed it.
00:39:49
It was right.
00:39:49
He did during the break.
00:39:50
It was really like poofy out here.
00:39:52
It was like the opposite of that Tim Teboware cut back in the day.
00:39:56
Damn it.
00:39:56
I wish I took a screenshot.
00:39:58
It was so funny.
00:39:59
I mean, it looks good.
00:40:00
You laughed so hard and let him know.
00:40:02
I didn't laugh to him.
00:40:03
Do it back.
00:40:04
I didn't laugh to him.
00:40:05
It was when he put your head.
00:40:06
Do it back, Patrick.
00:40:07
Yeah.
00:40:07
What did you do?
00:40:08
No, no.
00:40:11
I can't really.
00:40:12
No, it's like that.
00:40:14
Yes.
00:40:14
I got a lot of hair.
00:40:16
That's what it looked like.
00:40:18
This is what it was.
00:40:20
No Brian or something.
00:40:23
Yeah, that's Conan O'Brien.
00:40:24
That's that's big wave Dave.
00:40:27
It was more.
00:40:30
Yeah, that's like that.
00:40:31
When I was a kid, we used to go to crazy shirts.
00:40:33
I don't know if you guys ever remember crazy shirts, but it was like before t-shirts, they had crazy t-shirts.
00:40:38
You go out to go this place called crazy shirts.
00:40:40
And they had always like fake beer ads, but one of them had a haircut like that.
00:40:44
And the guy's hair was like a wave and the dude surfed on the wave.
00:40:48
That's what your head looks like.
00:40:50
A wave breaking.
00:40:52
I needed that.
00:40:54
Thank you.
00:40:55
All right.
00:40:56
I'm going to admit to the audience something.
00:40:58
I did this during the commercial break.
00:41:00
I didn't wait.
00:41:01
All right.
00:41:01
This is your thing, Tinfoil.
00:41:02
You want to put this up.
00:41:04
This conspiracy.
00:41:05
It's cheeseburger.
00:41:06
All right.
00:41:07
Put it up.
00:41:08
All right.
00:41:09
We put it up.
00:41:10
It's on the screen.
00:41:11
All right.
00:41:12
Right.
00:41:12
Everybody who's watching on YouTube Facebook, whatever.
00:41:15
It's a cheeseburger.
00:41:16
If you're listening, it's just a cheeseburger.
00:41:18
Double burger.
00:41:19
Let us.
00:41:20
Looks like cherry tomatoes are chopped up in there.
00:41:23
Not sure.
00:41:24
Some onions.
00:41:25
Big sesame seed bun.
00:41:26
Right.
00:41:27
But it says squint your eyes.
00:41:28
Tell me what you see.
00:41:30
Everybody can't squint your eyes.
00:41:32
I think I think the pixels are overlaid in this.
00:41:35
Like I think the person that it is is like is underlaid in it with the cheeseburger over.
00:41:41
Sure.
00:41:42
It's definitely a Photoshop job.
00:41:43
Yeah.
00:41:44
It's.
00:41:44
You guys are saying that this is actually like manipulated.
00:41:47
I think the opacity.
00:41:48
I would bet 100%.
00:41:49
I think the opacity of the actual picture is underneath.
00:41:52
I think I don't think there's just burgers out there that look alive.
00:41:55
And then they filled it in.
00:41:56
This is how it went for me when I did it.
00:41:59
I was like, okay.
00:42:01
Okay.
00:42:01
I see a mustache.
00:42:02
Oh, there's the eyes.
00:42:04
I did think I don't know why, but I didn't think it's a black dude.
00:42:07
I don't know why I said black dude because I questioned myself.
00:42:10
Like why?
00:42:11
The burger and then I realized, okay.
00:42:13
He's bald.
00:42:14
The bun.
00:42:15
He's bald on top.
00:42:16
The chat's getting it.
00:42:17
But he could be any.
00:42:18
He could be any race.
00:42:20
Why?
00:42:20
Why did I say black guy?
00:42:21
And then it jumped.
00:42:22
And then it jumped out to me.
00:42:23
It's Steve Harvey.
00:42:24
It's Steve Harvey, right?
00:42:26
It's great.
00:42:27
Yeah.
00:42:28
Oh, my God.
00:42:28
He didn't have a mustache.
00:42:30
It's been Gary Shanling because the big lips, but you know, other than that.
00:42:34
What's the lip?
00:42:36
The cheese?
00:42:37
It's like the.
00:42:38
Yeah.
00:42:39
Yeah.
00:42:40
Cheese.
00:42:41
Yeah.
00:42:42
Yeah.
00:42:43
So it's making the rounds on the internet right now.
00:42:45
So there's a lot of these though to your point two days.
00:42:50
Is this done digitally after the fact?
00:42:52
Yeah.
00:42:52
A lot of these, right?
00:42:53
Like there's a lot of Jesus ones where you could see Jesus if you squint your eyes, like really hard.
00:42:58
A lot of those going around.
00:43:00
Right.
00:43:00
And it's like a picture.
00:43:02
It's like an inappropriate picture.
00:43:04
But then like it makes up a picture of Jesus.
00:43:06
Guilt.
00:43:07
Guilt maybe.
00:43:08
Yeah.
00:43:09
Yeah.
00:43:09
He's watching.
00:43:11
All right.
00:43:12
So there you go.
00:43:13
Steve Harvey.
00:43:14
He's in your burgers.
00:43:14
All right.
00:43:15
Right now, Cash Patel still testifying as is RFK Jr.
00:43:19
As is Tulsi.
00:43:19
Yeah.
00:43:20
We'll keep monitoring that Donald Trump.
00:43:21
Give a press conference on the plane crash in Washington.
00:43:24
See along with Pete Hegseth and Sean Duffy will keep monitoring that.
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