Never thought we'd say this, but you could liken Kamala Harris' political career to the story of Goldilocks. Some moments are considered "too soft" on crime, other policies are considered "too hard." But is she "Commie-la" or "Cop-ala?" And can she lead a campaign that's "just right" for the American people?

In this episode, Sara and Juan Diego trace Kamala Harris' journey from the newly integrated elementary school, where she played 'Miss Mary Mack,' to her groundbreaking career as District Attorney, Attorney General, U.S. Senator, Vice President, and, now, the Democratic Party's presidential nominee. Sara and JD discuss her biracial identity, her strategic choice of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as a running mate, and the multifaceted challenges she faces winning over both progressive and moderate voters. Along the way, the hosts tackle Harris's criminal record that have both elevated and haunted her career, painting a picture of a woman with a Black and Brown history that isn't so black or white.

The episode is co-hosted by Nationly’s producer-reporter Sofia Sanchez and multimedia journalist J.D. Ramirez.

Stream Nationly every Thursday wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Hosts: Sara Sadhwani and Juan Diego Ramirez | Executive Producer: Saadia Khan | Assistant Producer: Sofia Sanchez I Content Writers: Emmanuelle Monahan I Research Assistant: Jenna Marcus I Editorial review: Shei Yu I Sound Designer & Editor: Juan Velez | Immigrantly Theme Music: Simon Hutchinson | Other Music: Epidemic Sound

Nationly is an Immigrantly Media Production.

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