DiscoverCan we talk about...? A podcast on leading for racial equity in philanthropyKatie Hong and Abby Sarmac on their 'why' for engaging in racial equity work and themes from season 2
Katie Hong and Abby Sarmac on their 'why' for engaging in racial equity work and themes from season 2

Katie Hong and Abby Sarmac on their 'why' for engaging in racial equity work and themes from season 2

Update: 2025-08-01
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In our final episode of Season 2, Katie Hong and Abby Sarmac sit down to recap the season, recount their ‘why’ for engaging in racial equity work, and celebrate achieving their dream of hosting a podcast! 

They ground the episode in what we set out to do this season, which was to uplift the nuances of operationalizing equity commitments across a diversity of contexts. From these various contexts, places and funding models, Katie and Abby found inspiration in the similarities that many guests share, specifically the importance of listening, showing up with care and going farther together. 

Katie and Abby also highlight the unique roles different types of funders can play, from community foundations to intermediary funders to philanthropy-serving organizations, and how each can leverage its role to strengthen equity in our sector. 

They bring in their personal and professional stories, reminding us of the importance of bringing our whole selves and our collective humanity to advance racial equity. 

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Katie Hong and Abby Sarmac on their 'why' for engaging in racial equity work and themes from season 2

Katie Hong and Abby Sarmac on their 'why' for engaging in racial equity work and themes from season 2

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