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Last Looks: Monkeybone w/ Brad Meltzer

Last Looks: Monkeybone w/ Brad Meltzer

Update: 2026-01-231
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The podcast begins with a discussion of the movie "Monkey Bone," exploring its confusing plot, the meaning of "downtown" as a dreamlike dimension, and listener theories. The hosts address corrections and omissions regarding the film, including potential casting and the origin of "bingo wings." They also touch upon the film "Dreamscape" and connections to Edgar Allan Poe. Insights from Rose McGowan about "Monkey Bone" are shared, and a listener-submitted "comatay" chant is acknowledged. A deleted scene about train travel woes is presented. The episode then transitions to an interview with author Brad Meltzer, who discusses his book "The Viper," witness protection, secretive funeral homes at Dover Air Force Base, and his research methods. They also explore Gen X nostalgia, the evolution of the witness protection program, Meltzer's comic book projects, and his strategies for encouraging children to read comics. The episode concludes with announcements for upcoming movies, including "Return to Oz," and a farewell to the guest.

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00:00:00
"Monkey Bone" Discussion and Listener Engagement

The podcast kicks off with an exploration of the movie "Monkey Bone," dissecting its confusing narrative, the metaphorical significance of "downtown," and listener-submitted theories. The hosts also address feedback, discuss potential casting, and share insights from Rose McGowan regarding the film's production. Listener contributions, including theme songs and taglines, are encouraged.

00:15:18
"Dreamscape," Edgar Allan Poe, and "Bingo Wings" Award

This segment touches upon a revelation about the movie "Dreamscape," explores a connection to Edgar Allan Poe through an actor in "Monkey Bone," and awards "Bingo Wings" as the best correction/omission of the week, highlighting listener engagement.

00:20:00
Bonus Deleted Scene: Train Travel Etiquette

A deleted scene is shared where the hosts recount their experiences with disruptive loud phone conversations and awkward interactions during train travel, emphasizing the annoyances of public transportation.

00:21:20
Matinee Episode Announcement and Guest Introduction

The hosts announce the weekly "matinee" episodes, previewing "Cool World" and "Body Rock," and then introduce their special guest, author Brad Meltzer.

00:22:26
Interview with Brad Meltzer: "The Viper," Witness Protection, and Secretive Roles

Brad Meltzer discusses his new book "The Viper," the intricacies of the witness protection program, and his research into secretive funeral homes at Dover Air Force Base, sharing anecdotes about his investigative process and the sensitive nature of mortuary work.

00:30:32
Meltzer on "Quincy," CSI, and Gen X Nostalgia

The conversation shifts to the classic TV show "Quincy," its impact on Gen X culture, and comparisons to "CSI," reflecting on the era's television landscape.

00:32:13
Meltzer on Research, Trust, and Witness Protection Evolution

Meltzer explains his methods for gaining access and trust for his research, emphasizing relationship building. He also details the evolution of the witness protection program, from its origins to its modern challenges in the digital age.

00:40:06
Meltzer's Comic Projects and Children's Reading Habits

Brad Meltzer discusses his current comic book work with Marvel and DC, his reading preferences, and offers recommendations and strategies for encouraging children to engage with comics.

00:47:00
Upcoming Movie and Show Wrap-up

The hosts announce next week's movie, "Return to Oz," provide details on its availability, and conclude the episode, thanking the guest, listeners, and production team.

Keywords

Monkey Bone


A 2001 fantasy comedy film directed by Henry Selick, starring Matthew Broderick. The movie is known for its surreal imagery and confusing plot, which involves a cartoonist's soul being transferred into his own animated creation.

Downtown (Monkey Bone)


In "Monkey Bone," "downtown" refers to a surreal, nightmarish dimension where characters are trapped. It's a metaphorical space representing the subconscious and the realm of dreams and fears, distinct from a literal urban location.

Bingo Wings


A derogatory British term for the loose skin on the underside of the upper arm, often associated with aging. The term originates from the way arms are raised in celebration at bingo halls, causing the skin to flap.

Witness Protection Program


A U.S. federal program designed to protect witnesses who testify against dangerous criminals. It involves relocating individuals, providing new identities, and offering security to ensure their safety.

Dover Air Force Base


A U.S. Air Force base known for its role as the primary aerial port of entry for deceased military personnel, astronauts, and victims of national tragedies. It's a highly secure facility involved in sensitive operations.

Gen X Media Nostalgia


A cultural phenomenon where individuals from Generation X (born roughly 1965-1980) revisit and celebrate media from their youth, such as TV shows, movies, and music, often with a sense of fondness and shared experience.

Brad Meltzer


An American author known for his thrillers, non-fiction books, and comic books. He often researches complex topics, including government programs and historical events, for his writing.

Comic Book Mashups


Creative collaborations in comic books that combine characters, storylines, or universes from different franchises. Examples include "Deadpool vs. The Marvel Universe" or crossovers between DC and Marvel characters.

Return to Oz


The 1985 sequel to "The Wizard of Oz," directed by Walter Murch. It is known for its darker tone and unsettling imagery compared to the original film.

Q&A

  • What is the significance of "downtown" in the movie "Monkey Bone"?

    In "Monkey Bone," "downtown" is not a physical location but a dreamlike, nightmarish dimension. It's where the protagonist gets trapped and represents a surreal world of fears and subconscious thoughts, distinct from the waking world.

  • What is the origin of the term "bingo wings"?

    "Bingo wings" is a British slang term for the loose skin on the underside of the upper arm. It's humorously derived from the way people raise their arms in celebration at bingo halls, causing this skin to flap.

  • How has the focus of the Witness Protection Program evolved over time?

    Initially created for mobsters, the Witness Protection Program's primary focus has shifted. According to Brad Meltzer's research, accountants have become the most common group entering the program, reflecting changes in criminal activity.

  • What makes Dover Air Force Base a unique and secretive location?

    Dover Air Force Base is where the bodies of fallen soldiers, astronauts, and victims of national tragedies are processed. It's a place filled with secrets and handled by dedicated morticians who perform meticulous work, making it a compelling setting for thrillers.

  • What are some of Brad Meltzer's current comic book projects?

    Brad Meltzer is working on a new Marvel project and has a book coming out with Jeff Johns as part of the "Ghost Machine" initiative. He also enjoys reading various comic mashups and new runs of established characters.

  • What advice does Brad Meltzer give for getting children interested in reading comics?

    Meltzer suggests introducing children to engaging series like "Hilo," "Bone," and "Captain Underpants." He also recommends "Batman: Brave and the Bold" for its team-ups and visual appeal, emphasizing finding what resonates with the child.

Show Notes

Nicolas Cage, Bingo Wings, and another Paul nudity flashback?! All this and more when Paul answers YOUR corrections & omissions on our Monkeybone episode. Plus, Jason & Paul chat with NY Times Best-Selling Author Brad Meltzer about his new book THE VIPER, his inside access to the witness protection program, favorite comic books, and a lot more. Paul also shares a bonus deleted scene from our Monkeybone live show and announces next week's new movie!


 

PAUL, JASON, & BRAD'S COMIC BOOK RECS:

Deadpool/Batman

Godzilla vs. the Marvel Universe

Predator vs. The Marvel Universe

Batman by Matt Fraction and Jorge Jiménez

Ghost Machine 

Absolute Batman #15

Batman & Robin: Year One

Jonna and the Unpossible monsters

Thor: the Mighty Avenger

Hilo

Bone

Dog Man 

Captain Underpants

Batman: The Brave and the Bold


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