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Last Looks: Return to Oz

Last Looks: Return to Oz

Update: 2026-02-061
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The podcast episode begins with listener mail and corrections regarding "Return to Oz," delving into George Lucas's involvement, the practical effects for Tik-Tok, and comparisons to L. Frank Baum's books, which are noted as more whimsical. Discussions touch upon potential copyright influences on Disney's visual choices and the film's dark themes, with interpretations of Princess Ozma as a potential early transgender character. The episode also announces a listener mail winner, features updates from Jason on his Broadway performance and Taskmaster Live, recommends the TV show "Landman" and anime series "Frieren" and "The Apothecary Diaries," and previews next week's movie, "Date with an Angel."

Outlines

00:00:00
Listener Mail and "Return to Oz" Discussion

The episode starts with listener feedback on "Return to Oz," covering George Lucas's involvement, practical effects for Tik-Tok, and comparisons to the L. Frank Baum books, noting the film's darker tone. Discussions also explore copyright influences on visual choices and the film's disturbing themes, including interpretations of Princess Ozma.

00:17:49
Listener Mail Winner, Broadway, and Taskmaster Updates

Mav is announced as the listener mail winner, with a humorous presentation by Belina the Chicken. Jason provides an update on his Broadway performance in "All Out" and his experience with Taskmaster Live in New York.

00:32:32
"Landman" and Anime Recommendations

The hosts discuss the critically acclaimed TV series "Landman," highlighting its unique tone and performances. They also recommend anime series such as "Frieren" and "The Apothecary Diaries."

00:39:29
Next Week's Movie: "Date with an Angel"

The hosts announce that next week's movie will be the 1987 romantic comedy-fantasy "Date with an Angel," discussing its plot, reception, and availability on Tubi.

Keywords

Return to Oz


A 1985 dark fantasy film sequel to "The Wizard of Oz," known for its distinct visual style and darker tone compared to the original.

L. Frank Baum Books


The original source material for the Oz films, often contrasted with movie adaptations for their more whimsical and less dark tone.

Practical Effects


Physical special effects techniques used in filmmaking, exemplified by the operation of the character Tik-Tok in "Return to Oz."

Princess Ozma


A character from the Oz books, discussed for her gender identity and potential as an early transgender representation in children's literature.

Copyright Law


Legal considerations that may have influenced Disney's visual design choices in "Return to Oz" to differentiate it from the MGM "Wizard of Oz."

Taskmaster Live


A live iteration of the comedy game show "Taskmaster," with updates on Jason's participation.

Landman (TV Series)


A highly recommended TV series praised for its unique, intense tone and strong performances.

Anime Recommendations


Suggestions for animated Japanese series, including "Frieren" and "The Apothecary Diaries," noted for their storytelling and artistic merit.

Date with an Angel


The 1987 romantic comedy-fantasy film selected as the next movie to be discussed, available on Tubi.

Q&A

  • What was George Lucas's role in the production of "Return to Oz"?

    George Lucas intervened when director Walter Murch was initially fired, vouching for him and advising on the film for a few weeks, potentially contributing to some of its unique ideas.

  • How were the practical effects for Tik-Tok in "Return to Oz" achieved?

    Tik-Tok was operated from the inside by a trampolineist, Michael Sudan, who performed in a difficult, inverted position, limiting his time in the suit to brief intervals.

  • Why did Disney's "Return to Oz" have a different visual style than the 1939 "Wizard of Oz"?

    It is speculated that Disney avoided using elements from the MGM film due to copyright and trademark concerns, necessitating a unique visual approach for their adaptation.

  • Are the original "Return to Oz" books as dark as the movie?

    Many listeners find the L. Frank Baum books to be significantly more whimsical and less menacing than the film adaptation.

  • What is the significance of Princess Ozma's character?

    Princess Ozma is a character from the Oz books who was raised as a boy, leading to discussions about her being an early example of transgender representation in children's literature.

  • What is the TV series "Landman" and why is it recommended?

    "Landman" is a critically acclaimed TV series praised for its distinctive, intense tone and compelling performances, drawing comparisons to films like "Face/Off."

  • Which anime series were recommended in the episode?

    The episode recommended "Frieren: Beyond Journey's End" Season 2 and "The Apothecary Diaries," both lauded for their storytelling and emotional depth.

  • What is the next movie to be featured on the podcast?

    The next movie to be discussed is the 1987 romantic comedy-fantasy "Date with an Angel," which is available on the Tubi streaming service.

Show Notes

Jason & Paul chat about the polarizing reactions to our Return to Oz episode, Taskmaster Live in NYC, and movies/TV shows they're currently loving. Plus, Paul answers all your corrections & omissions on Return to Oz and announces next week's new movie!


 

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